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Old 02-28-2023, 08:48 AM   #1
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Tired of having the best defense in the league?
Except when it matters, such as the playoffs.
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Old 02-28-2023, 09:07 AM   #2
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Tired of having the best defense in the league?
Until the playoffs...
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Old 02-28-2023, 09:01 AM   #3
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Old 02-28-2023, 09:11 AM   #4
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Yeah. I think the Jags have a better 2023 trajectory than the Bills
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Old 02-28-2023, 09:35 AM   #5
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He knows they don't have the horses.

Look, I totally buy that certain offensive systems and play-callers have a huge effect on whether that offense is successful or not.

I don't think it's as big of an effect on a defense. If you look at all of the great defenses, they have great talent. Period. Defense is a more visceral thing.

Even the Bears 46 defense was named after a safety (Fencik, I think it was?), and worked primarily because of 1)a dominant pass rush and 2) the particular abilities of specific players. Same with the Tampa 2. Same with the 2000 Ravens. It goes on, and on.

The Bills defense looked really good until Von Miller got hurt and other injuries piled up.

Frazier knows they're not going to be as good this year, and if they tank, it hurts his career opportunities.
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Old 02-28-2023, 09:47 AM   #6
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As crazy as it sounds I think the Bills, especially the defense depends on Von Miller.

With Miller they had a very good defense. Without him it was straight trash. They couldn't generate pressure at all.

Considering he's about to turn 34 coming off an ACL tear (in the same knee) it just doesn't bode well for them.
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Old 02-28-2023, 09:54 AM   #7
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He knows they don't have the horses.

Look, I totally buy that certain offensive systems and play-callers have a huge effect on whether that offense is successful or not.

I don't think it's as big of an effect on a defense. If you look at all of the great defenses, they have great talent. Period. Defense is a more visceral thing.

Even the Bears 46 defense was named after a safety (Fencik, I think it was?), and worked primarily because of 1)a dominant pass rush and 2) the particular abilities of specific players. Same with the Tampa 2. Same with the 2000 Ravens. It goes on, and on.

The Bills defense looked really good until Von Miller got hurt and other injuries piled up.

Frazier knows they're not going to be as good this year, and if they tank, it hurts his career opportunities.
Frazier’s contract expired at the end of this month. I think he was nudged out the door. They are putting a spin on it by claiming he is “choosing” to leave. I think they were pretty healthy in earlier years when Mahomes dropped 38 & 42 on them in the Playoffs. Those Buffalo defenses in 2020 & 2021 were highly ranked in the regular season.
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Old 02-28-2023, 10:01 AM   #8
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He knows they don't have the horses.

Look, I totally buy that certain offensive systems and play-callers have a huge effect on whether that offense is successful or not.

I don't think it's as big of an effect on a defense. If you look at all of the great defenses, they have great talent. Period. Defense is a more visceral thing.

Even the Bears 46 defense was named after a safety (Fencik, I think it was?), and worked primarily because of 1)a dominant pass rush and 2) the particular abilities of specific players. Same with the Tampa 2. Same with the 2000 Ravens. It goes on, and on.

The Bills defense looked really good until Von Miller got hurt and other injuries piled up.

Frazier knows they're not going to be as good this year, and if they tank, it hurts his career opportunities.
The Bills zone system works best against average to below average arm talents.
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Old 02-28-2023, 10:02 AM   #9
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He knows they don't have the horses.

Look, I totally buy that certain offensive systems and play-callers have a huge effect on whether that offense is successful or not.

I don't think it's as big of an effect on a defense. If you look at all of the great defenses, they have great talent. Period. Defense is a more visceral thing.

Even the Bears 46 defense was named after a safety (Fencik, I think it was?), and worked primarily because of 1)a dominant pass rush and 2) the particular abilities of specific players. Same with the Tampa 2. Same with the 2000 Ravens. It goes on, and on.

The Bills defense looked really good until Von Miller got hurt and other injuries piled up.

Frazier knows they're not going to be as good this year, and if they tank, it hurts his career opportunities.
Part of that is because of the way that rules are skewed towards the offense. I will say that SB 53 was a defensive masterpiece, but overall I agree with what you are saying.
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Old 02-28-2023, 10:31 AM   #10
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He knows they don't have the horses.

Look, I totally buy that certain offensive systems and play-callers have a huge effect on whether that offense is successful or not.

I don't think it's as big of an effect on a defense. If you look at all of the great defenses, they have great talent. Period. Defense is a more visceral thing.

Even the Bears 46 defense was named after a safety (Fencik, I think it was?), and worked primarily because of 1)a dominant pass rush and 2) the particular abilities of specific players. Same with the Tampa 2. Same with the 2000 Ravens. It goes on, and on.

The Bills defense looked really good until Von Miller got hurt and other injuries piled up.

Frazier knows they're not going to be as good this year, and if they tank, it hurts his career opportunities.
I thought it was called a 46 defense because it had 4 down lineman but 6 on the LOS (with the 2 LBs coming down to the line and a safety backfilling into the LB corps).
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Old 02-28-2023, 10:38 AM   #11
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I thought it was called a 46 defense because it had 4 down lineman but 6 on the LOS (with the 2 LBs coming down to the line and a safety backfilling into the LB corps).
He was actually right. It was named after a player. It was Doug Plank.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-where-it-went
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Old 02-28-2023, 10:44 AM   #12
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He was actually right. It was named after a player. It was Doug Plank.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-where-it-went
Oh I wasn't arguing with him - I just didn't realize the history of it.

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Sounds like maybe their window is closed at least temporarily
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Sounds like maybe their window is closed at least temporarily
He's just as culpable for the Bills declining roster. His drafting has been really bad recently.
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Old 02-28-2023, 09:58 AM   #15
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He's just as culpable for the Bills declining roster. His drafting has been really bad recently.
Yeah, for whatever reason, they've been incapable of getting their drafted guys on the field.

They spent a ton of draft resources on their defense and always ended up coming up a bit short, whether it's all the middling DE's they've drafted or moves like drafting Elam and him not being able to get playing time.
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