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LaChapelle · 08-17-2009, 11:21 AM

Broncos acquire defensive lineman Smith from Patriots
Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 17, 2009 11:27 AM ET
Five months after the Matt Cassel trade rumors reached Jay Cutler's sensitive ears, the Broncos and Patriots finally made a deal happen Monday.

This one won't shake up the rest of the league quite as much.

Fox's Alex Marvez has the terms: The Broncos acquired reserve defensive end Le Kevin Smith and a 2010 seventh-round pick from the Patriots in exchange for Denver's 2010 fifth-round selection.

Smith was a rarely used reserve since getting taken as a sixth-round pick in 2006, but will give Denver another body for their thin defensive line.

The move also takes care of some housekeeping for the Patriots. Denver's fifth-round pick will likely be sent to Oakland to complete the Derrick Burgess trade. Oakland also received a third-round pick in 2010 in that deal.

Basileus777 · 08-17-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

He is a good player

He's not garbage, but that's a stretch. He could be solid, but the Pats wouldn't be dumping him to clear a roster spot (for Kevin Carter?) if he was anything more.

New England essentially got a 5th rounder for someone they were going to cut anyway. Denver made the trade because KC or Cleveland would probably have pick him off waivers.

CupidStunt · 08-17-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

He is a good player

**DaKCMan AP** · 08-17-2009, 11:40 AM

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He is a good player who couldn't crack the lineup on the best DL in the NFL. Kind of hard to start over guys like Seymour, Wilfork, Warren, and Jarvis Green.

Quesadilla Joe · 08-17-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

He's not garbage, but that's a stretch. He could be solid, but the Pats wouldn't be dumping him to clear a roster spot (for Kevin Carter?) if he was anything more.

New England essentially got a 5th rounder for someone they were going to cut anyway. Denver made the trade because KC or Cleveland would probably have pick him off waivers.

The Patriots might have cut him, but it isn't because he isn't good. It's because they are stacked at DL.

NE didn't get anything. That pick goes to Oakland. Denver probably did jump on it because KC would get him off of waivers first because they had a worse record last year.

Denver needs the help and if he can start for us I will be happy we gave up a 5th round pick.

Just Passin' By · 08-17-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

The Patriots might have cut him, but it isn't because he isn't good. It's because they are stacked at DL.

NE didn't get anything. That pick goes to Oakland. Denver probably did jump on it because KC would get him off of waivers first because they had a worse record last year.

Denver needs the help and if he can start for us I will be happy we gave up a 5th round pick.

Actually, if you play it out and assume the player wasn't going to make the roster, New England got a 4th round pick for a 5th and a 7th.

kcchiefsus · 08-17-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

He is a good player who couldn't crack the lineup on the best DL in the NFL. Kind of hard to start over guys like Seymour, Wilfork, Warren, and Jarvis Green.

And how exactly do you know he is a good player? Just because he came from the Patriots? If the Chiefs traded for him and we proclaimed him a good player you would be laughing at us. Funny how you idiots have the highest opinion of a player once he is on your team. Jay Cutler was the best thing since sliced bread but once he was traded all of a sudden you believed Kyle Orton was actually a better quarterback. You guys make me laugh.

kcchiefsus · 08-17-2009, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

The Patriots might have cut him, but it isn't because he isn't good. It's because they are stacked at DL.

NE didn't get anything. That pick goes to Oakland. Denver probably did jump on it because KC would get him off of waivers first because they had a worse record last year.

Denver needs the help and if he can start for us I will be happy we gave up a 5th round pick.

If he can start for you then that means your defensive line sucks ass.

Basileus777 · 08-17-2009, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

If he can start for you then that means your defensive line sucks ass.

Damn. What would Mark Schlereth's say at a time like this?

Rooster · 08-17-2009, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

He is a good player who couldn't crack the lineup on the best DL in the NFL. Kind of hard to start over guys like Seymour, Wilfork, Warren, and Jarvis Green.

Quesadilla Joe · 08-17-2009, 11:52 AM

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If he can start for you then that means your defensive line sucks ass.

Denver's DL is better than the Chiefs. Tyson Jackson will be a non factor this year, all rookie defensive lineman are.

**The Franchise** · 08-17-2009, 11:54 AM

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Denver's DL is better than the Chiefs. Tyson Jackson will be a non factor this year, all rookie defensive lineman are.

**the Talking Can** · 08-17-2009, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo2724

Denver's DL is better than the Chiefs. Tyson Jackson will be a non factor this year, all rookie defensive lineman are.

jesus ****ing christ you are a raiased on riots level reerun

Amnorix · 08-17-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers from, but the Chiefs have more than 2 former Patriots on the squad.

As for Smith, the Patriots trade for Burgess called for a 3rd and a 4th next year, but the 4th could be dropped to a 5th if the Patriots got one (the Patriots 5th went to Tampa in the trade for Smith the tight end). This move essentially screws the Raiders out of some draft slotting and gives the Broncos a 7th and a player that will either start or, more likely, be a part of the D-line rotation, and it only cost the Broncos a 5th in return.

It's really a win for the Patriots, a win for the Broncos and a loss for the Raiders.

Thanks for saving me the typing exercise.

I note that I doubt the Raiders were under any illusions about the Pats not finding a way to give them a 5th and get back their 4th.

Amnorix · 08-17-2009, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

He's not garbage, but that's a stretch. He could be solid, but the Pats wouldn't be dumping him to clear a roster spot (for Kevin Carter?) if he was anything more.

New England essentially got a 5th rounder for someone they were going to cut anyway. Denver made the trade because KC or Cleveland would probably have pick him off waivers.

Eh, he's a perfectly serviceable spot player / backup. He made our team the last year or two. *shrug*

Just Passin' By · 08-17-2009, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Thanks for saving me the typing exercise.

I note that I doubt the Raiders were under any illusions about the Pats not finding a way to give them a 5th and get back their 4th.

True and, if the Broncos suck as much as a lot of the Chiefs fans here think they will, the difference between the Patriots' 4th and the Broncos' 5th could be minimal.

08-17-2009, 11:21 AM
LaChapelle Banned Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $10004900	Bronco's make a trade Broncos acquire defensive lineman Smith from Patriots Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on August 17, 2009 11:27 AM ET Five months after the Matt Cassel trade rumors reached Jay Cutler's sensitive ears, the Broncos and Patriots finally made a deal happen Monday. This one won't shake up the rest of the league quite as much. Fox's Alex Marvez has the terms: The Broncos acquired reserve defensive end Le Kevin Smith and a 2010 seventh-round pick from the Patriots in exchange for Denver's 2010 fifth-round selection. Smith was a rarely used reserve since getting taken as a sixth-round pick in 2006, but will give Denver another body for their thin defensive line. The move also takes care of some housekeeping for the Patriots. Denver's fifth-round pick will likely be sent to Oakland to complete the Derrick Burgess trade. Oakland also received a third-round pick in 2010 in that deal.
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