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Old 04-18-2011, 09:54 AM  
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Gosselin has his 1st mock draft up.

But you have to be a subscriber to the paper to get it. Maybe someone form the Dallas area could give us Gosselin's 1st. Can't remember if Mock #1 is the need based one, but I think it is.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/nfl...yron-smith.ece
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Old 04-18-2011, 11:37 PM   #16
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If Carson Palmer is done with the Bengals I could see them going Gabbert instead of Green. I would if I were them.
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Old 04-19-2011, 12:51 AM   #17
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If Carson Palmer is done with the Bengals I could see them going Gabbert instead of Green. I would if I were them.
I see Gabbert going first in front of Cam. After the Vick,Young and JaFatass drama busts I don't see Riviera going with Cam and his questionable character.

Gabbert is a much safer pick and when you are in semi-rebuild mode Gabbert makes sense and I don't care if Cam can walk on water because his character (All about me) will sink himself and his team IMO.
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Old 04-19-2011, 03:55 AM   #18
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I really think the Bengals owner thinks Carson is coming back
sad really because he isn't even very good anymore
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Old 04-19-2011, 05:24 AM   #19
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Cam is to big of a risk, Panthers should go CB Pederson first then trade the Chiefs WR Smith and their 2nd round pick for our 1st round pick!
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Old 04-19-2011, 08:04 AM   #20
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I'd say the first 2 picks are pretty much set at this point. The draft starts with Buffalo this year.
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Old 04-19-2011, 08:17 AM   #21
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I'd say the first 2 picks are pretty much set at this point. The draft starts with Buffalo this year.
I don't. There are a bunch of ways that Denver could go.

They probably take Dareus, but they could just as easily select Peterson, Fairley, or even AJ Green. Demaryius Thomas' injury is one of the worst you can have for a position that requires explosiveness.
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Cam is to big of a risk, Panthers should go CB Pederson first then trade the Chiefs WR Smith and their 2nd round pick for our 1st round pick!
Smith is nearing the end, and unless there is an agreement between now and next Thursday, no players can be traded for draft picks.
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I don't. There are a bunch of ways that Denver could go.

They probably take Dareus, but they could just as easily select Peterson, Fairley, or even AJ Green. Demaryius Thomas' injury is one of the worst you can have for a position that requires explosiveness.
I would say about 90% Dareus and 10% Fairley here. Fox's best years were with that dominant D-Line so it makes since he goes back to what he believes works. They still have a solid WR core without Thomas. Peterson would be worth the pick, but like I said I think they value Dline over a DB.
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Old 04-19-2011, 11:09 AM   #24
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I see Gabbert going first in front of Cam. After the Vick,Young and JaFatass drama busts I don't see Riviera going with Cam and his questionable character.

Gabbert is a much safer pick and when you are in semi-rebuild mode Gabbert makes sense and I don't care if Cam can walk on water because his character (All about me) will sink himself and his team IMO.
What exactly does Newton have in common with any of the 3 QBs you listed, other than skin color?
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What exactly does Newton have in common with any of the 3 QBs you listed, other than skin color?
I think that's his point. That teams are going to shy away from black QBs because of his list.
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depends on whether you think Smith is athletic enough to play OLB in a 3-4 or not.
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I don't. There are a bunch of ways that Denver could go.

They probably take Dareus, but they could just as easily select Peterson, Fairley, or even AJ Green. Demaryius Thomas' injury is one of the worst you can have for a position that requires explosiveness.
Von Miller would be under consideration too, or at least I would hope so.
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Updated: Rick Gosselin's position-by-position 2011 NFL draft rankings (4/15)
By RICK GOSSELIN / NFL Columnist

QUARTERBACK Ht. Wt.

1. Cam Newton, Auburn 6-5 248

2. Blaine Gabbert, Missouri 6-4 234

3. Jake Locker, Washington 6-2½ 231

4. Christian Ponder, Fla St 6-2 229

5. Ryan Mallett, Arkansas 6-6½ 253

6. Colin Kaepernick, Nevada 6-4½ 233

7. Andy Dalton, TCU 6-2 215

8. Ricky Stanzi, Wisconsin 6-4 223

9. Nathan Enderle, Idaho 6-4 240

10. Pat Devlin, Delaware 6-3 225

Rising: Colin Kaepernick, Nevada

Falling: Josh Portis, Cal (PA)

Sleeper: Jeff Van Camp, Florida Atlantic

HALFBACK

1. Mark Ingram, Alabama 5-9 215

2. Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech 5-9 212

3. Daniel Thomas, Kansas State 6-0 230

4. Mikel Leshoure, Illinois 5-11½ 227

5. Taiwan Jones, Eastern Washington 5-11½ 194

6. Shane Vereen, Cal 5-10 210

7. Kendall Hunter, Oklahoma State 5-7 199

8. Demarco Murray, Oklahoma 5-11½ 213

9. Bilal Powell, Louisville 5-10½ 209

10. Dion Lewis, Pitt 5-6½ 193

Rising: Taiwan Jones, Eastern Washington

Falling: John Clay, Wisconsin

Sleeper: Jay Finley, Baylor

FULLBACK

1. Anthony Sherman, Connecticut 5-10 242

2. Owen Marecic, Stanford 6-0½ 248

3. Henry Hynoski, Pitt 6-0 257

4. Shaun Chapas, Georgia 6-2 247

5. Stanley Mavili, Southern Cal 6-0 227

Sleeper: Bryant Ward, Oklahoma State

WIDE RECEIVER

1. A.J. Green, Georgia 6-3½ 211

2. Julio Jones, Alabama 6-2½ 220

3. Jon Baldwin, Pitt 6-4 228

4. Torrey Smith, Maryland 6-0½ 204

5. Titus Young, Boise State 5-11 174

6. Edmond Gates, Abilene Christian 5-11½ 192

7. Randall Cobb, Kentucky 5-10 191

8. Tandon Doss, Indiana 6-0 201

9. Vincent Brown, San Diego State 5-11 187

10. Leonard Hankerson, Miami-F 6-1½ 209

Rising: Randall Cobb, Kentucky

Falling: Greg Little, North Carolina

Sleeper: Ricardo Lockette, Fort Valley State

TIGHT END

1. Kyle Rudolph, Notre Dame 6-6 259

2. Lance Kendricks, Wisconsin 6-2½ 243

3. Luke Stocker, Tennessee 6-4½ 258

4. Jordan Cameron, Southern Cal 6-5 254

5. Rob Housler, Florida Atlantic 6-5 248

6. D.J. Williams, Arkansas 6-2 245

7. Charles Clay, Tulsa 6-2½ 245

6. Lee Smith, Marshall 6-5½ 266

9. Virgil Green, Nevada 6-3 249

10. Julius Thomas, Portland State 6-4½ 246

Rising: Rob Housler, Florida Atlantic

Falling: Weslye Saunders, South Carolina

Sleeper: Colin Cochart, South Dakota State

OFFENSIVE TACKLE

1. Tyron Smith, Southern Cal 6-5 307

2. Nate Solder, Colorado 6-8 319

3. Anthony Castonzo, Boston College 6-7 311

4. Gabe Carimi, Wisconsin 6-7 314

5. Derrick Sherrod, Mississippi State 6-5 321

6. James Carpenter, Alabama 6-4 321

7. Orlando Franklin, Miami-F 6-5½ 316

8. Marcus Gilbert, Florida 6-6 330

9. Jah Reid, Central Florida 6-7 321

10. James Brewer, Indiana 6-6 323

Rising: Jah Reid, Central Florida

Falling: Demarcus Love, Arkansas

Sleeper: David Arkin, Missouri State

GUARD

1. Danny Watkins, Baylor 6-3 310

2. Marcus Cannon, TCU 6-5 358

3. William Rackley, Lehigh 6-3 309

4. Ben Ijalana, Villanova 6-3½ 317

5. John Moffitt, Wisconsin 6-4 319

6. Clint Boling, Georgia 6-4½ 308

7. Andrew Jackson, Fresno State 6-5 299

8. Ray Dominguez, Arkansas 6-4 334

9. Caleb Schlauderaff, Utah 6-4 305

10. Carl Johnson, Florida 6-5 361

Rising: Mike Berry, Auburn

Falling: Steve Schilling, Michigan

Sleeper: Cameron Bradfield, Grand Valley State

CENTER

1. Mike Pouncey, Florida 6-5 303

2. Stefen Wisniewski, Penn State 6-3 313

3. Rodney Hudson, Florida State 6-2 299

4. Brandon Fusco, Slippery Rock 6-4 306

5. Jason Kelce, Cincinnati 6-2½ 280

6. Kris O’Dowd, Southern Cal 6-4 304

7. Jake Kirkpatrick, TCU 6-1½ 300

8. Ryan Bartholomew, Syracuse 6-1 302

9. Alex Linnenkohl, Oregon State 6-1½ 304

10. Tim Barnes, Missouri 6-3½ 298

Rising: Brandon Fusco, Slippery Rock

Falling: Kris O’Dowd, Southern Cal

Sleeper: Colin Baxter, Arizona

DEFENSIVE END

1. Robert Quinn, North Carolina 6-4 265

2. Da’Quan Bowers, Clemson 6-3 280

3. J.J. Watt, Wisconsin 6-5 290

4. Aldon Smith, Missouri 6-4 263

5. Cameron Jordan, Cal 6-4 287

6. Ryan Kerrigan, Purdue 6-3½ 267

7. Adrian Clayborn, Iowa 6-2½ 281

8. Cameron Heyward, Ohio State 6-4½ 294

9. Brooks Reed, Arizona 6-2½ 263

10. Christian Ballard, Iowa 6-3½ 283

Rising: Brooks Reed, Arizona

Falling: Jeremy Beal, Oklahoma

Sleeper: Bruce Miller, Central Florida

DEFENSIVE TACKLE

1. Marcell Dareus, Alabama 6-3 319

2. Nick Fairley, Auburn 6-3½ 291

3. Corey Liuget, Illinois 6-2 298

4. Phil Taylor, Baylor 6-3 334

5. Marvin Austin, North Carolina 6-1½ 309

6. Muhammad Wilkerson, Temple 6-4 315

7. Kenrick Ellis, Hampton 6-4½ 346

8. Jarvis Jenkins, Clemson 6-4 310

9. Stephen Paea, Oregon State 6-1 303

10. Terrell McClain, South Florida 6-1½ 297

Rising: Muhammad Wilkerson, Temple

Falling: Ian Williams, Notre Dame

Sleeper: Zach Clayton, Auburn

OUTSIDE LINEBACKER

1. Von Miller, Texas A&M 6-2½ 246

2. Akeem Ayers, UCLA 6-2½ 254

3. Martez Wilson, Illinois 6-3½ 250

4. Bruce Carter, North Carolina 6-1½ 241

5. K.J. Wright, Mississippi State 6-3 246

6. Colin McCarthy, Miami-F 6-1 238

7. Jabaal Sheard, Pitt 6-2½ 264

8. Kelvin Sheppard, LSU 6-1½ 250

9. Mason Foster, Washington 6-1 245

10. Jonas Mouton, Michigan 6-1 239

Rising: K.J. Wright, Mississippi State

Falling: Scott Lutrus, Connecticut

Sleeper: Jabara Williams, Stephen F. Austin

INSIDE/MIDDLE LINEBACKER

1. Akeem Dent, Georgia 6-1 242

2. Ross Homan, Ohio State 6-0½ 240

3. Casey Matthews, Oregon 6-0½ 231

4. Nate Irving, North Carolina State 6-1 240

5. Chris White, Mississippi State 6-2½ 240

6. Quan Sturdivant, North Carolina 6-1 241

7. Greg Jones, Michigan State 6-0 242

8. Jeff Tarpinian, Iowa 6-2 235

9. Greg Lloyd, Connecticut 6-1 246

10. Elijah Joseph, Temple 6-1 243

Rising: Jeff Tarpinian, Iowa

Falling: Greg Jones, Michigan State

Sleeper: Matt Berning, Central Michigan

CORNERBACK

1. Patrick Peterson, LSU 6-0 219

2. Prince Amukamara, Nebraska 6-0 206

3. Jimmy Smith, Colorado 6-2 211

4. Aaron Williams, Texas 5-11½ 204

5. Ras-I Dowling, Virginia 6-1 198

6. Brandon Harris, Miami-F 5-9½ 191

7. Shareece Wright, Southern Cal 5-10½ 185

8. Marcus Gilchrist, Clemson 5-10 195

9. Chris Culliver, South Carolina 6-0 199

10. Jalil Brown, Colorado 6-0½ 204

Rising: Josh Thomas, Buffalo

Falling: Kendric Burney, North Carolina

Sleeper: Justin Rogers, Richmond

SAFETY

1. Rahim Moore, UCLA 5-11½ 202

2. Quinton Carter, Oklahoma 6-0½ 208

3. Jaiquawn Jarrett, Temple 5-11½ 198

4. Tyler Sash, Iowa 6-0 211

5. Chris Conte, Cal 6-2 197

6. DeAndre McDaniel, Clemson 6-0 217

7. Robert Sands, West Virginia 6-4 217

8. Jermale Hines, Ohio State 6-1 219

9. Da’Norris Searcy, North Carolina 5-10½ 223

10. Joe Lefeged, Rutgers 5-10½ 210

Rising: Chris Prosinski, Wyoming

Falling: Ahmad Black, Florida

Sleeper: Isa Abdul-El Quddus, Fordham

KICKER

1. Matt Bosher, Miami-F 6-0 193

2. Dan Bailey, Oklahoma State 6-0½ 208

3. Kai Forbath, UCLA 6-1½ 197

4. Josh Jasper, LSU 5-10 174

5. Reid Forrest, Washington State 6-0 189

PUNTER

1. Chas Henry, Florida 6-3 219

2. Ryan Donahue, Iowa 6-1½ 193

3. Aaron Bates, Michigan State 6-0 200

4. Michael Such, Tulsa 6-1½ 204

5. Trevor Hankins, Arizona State 6-3½ 235

DEEP SNAPPER

1. Danny Aiken, Virginia 6-4 244

2. Corey Adams, Kansas State 6-4 250

3. Andrew Schulze, Iowa 6-4½ 260

4. Jake McQuaide, Ohio State 6-2½ 239

5. Christian Yount, UCLA 6-0 243
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What exactly does Newton have in common with any of the 3 QBs you listed, other than skin color?
Aside from skin color you don't see any similarities to Cam and the players listed?

Seriously?
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