Serious, non-trolling, questions from a Bills fan

[OCinBuffalo]

Hey all. I have a couple questions, but first I also have a couple of... clarifications?...that explain why I am asking the questions.

1. The general consensus in Buffalo is that the Jets game was an aberration. We were never going to be as bad as that game. It will be interesting to see how long it takes for the clowns at ESPN to cop to this, because they know it. Think of it this way: at least in KC you don't have to deal with media that are blatant fans of the Jets and Pats, yet massively insecure about the Bills = boogie men of their childhood, running around pretending they are objective. Oh yeah...we have Berman.... But at least you are going to get a fair shake from ESPN...because Chris Mortenson wasn't best buddies with the GM(Tom Donahoe) you, rightfully, fired.

2. As you now know...judging us based on the Jets game is reeruned. To be fair, I have no better standard to judge the Bills by...certainly not the Chiefs game(great googly moogly indeed) However, the Jets game was a comedy of our errors. But, unless you paid attention to our online radio/message boards, you'd have no way of knowing this. The Jets themselves had little to do with winning that game...and this will become obvious to you in a few weeks.

3. Well you might have known: ask David Decastro(Steelers, our 3rd preseason game) what he thinks about the Bills D line. Ask Big Ben. Wait...don't. According to Ben, it was our turf that blew Decastro back 5 yards into him, not Dareus...and not their RT, who was being blown back by Williams, falling on Decastro's knee = IR.

Given that, and what I've read here over the last week...

1. Do you buy into this "Pats* way" thing?

2. Do you think that, when they won SBs, Belechick was living off of Parcells drafts and getting lucky with Brady? (or do you believe that drafting a HOF Qb in the 6th round was intentional, and just another example of the "genius of the way"?)

3. The reason I ask 1-2, is because Belechik hasn't had a good draft...since Pioli left. (We'll see about this year...but so far? Losing to the Cards, with Kolb as QB?) That's right, check out the last 5 Belechick drafts. Most of them have been D oriented...and they have all been high round bustfests. (Btw, how's that Spiller pick at #5 looking now? But...but...but...we didn't draft the way the Pats do, and took a RB high, so it must be bad, right ESPN? ) Therefore, do you think that the "Pats* way" = The Emporer's New Clothes, or, it is just that the "Pats* way" has been poorly executed in the last few years?

The thing that boggles us...is that from our perspective...Pioli was/is the difference, and he's the reason the Pats* were good. But, you spend 5 minutes on this site, and you see a very different story. I had no idea that Pioli was a big fan of the NSA, and that Whaley thought his phone was tapped. WTF is all this? I don't even know what to think about it. It's obvious why a guy like Chan Gailey wouldn't fit into this organization. He's too nice, sure, but more importantly, he's far too straightforward.

Not only that...but you have had Weiss, and have Crennel...the other parts of the "Pats* way" and it hasn't done much.

Perhaps the sum of the parts is the only "way", and that by themselves they are awful?

Anyway, if any of you can shed some light on this, I would appreciate it.

[the Talking Can]

nobody gives a shit

[Pasta Little Brioni]

This place is in full meltdown mode, not a good time to ask these questions

[Shogun]

Matt Cassel

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by OCinBuffalo

Hey all. I have a couple questions, but first I also have a couple of... clarifications?...that explain why I am asking the questions.

1. The general consensus in Buffalo is that the Jets game was an aberration. We were never going to be as bad as that game. It will be interesting to see how long it takes for the clowns at ESPN to cop to this, because they know it. Think of it this way: at least in KC you don't have to deal with media that are blatant fans of the Jets and Pats, yet massively insecure about the Bills = boogie men of their childhood, running around pretending they are objective. Oh yeah...we have Berman.... But at least you are going to get a fair shake from ESPN...because Chris Mortenson wasn't best buddies with the GM(Tom Donahoe) you, rightfully, fired.

2. As you now know...judging us based on the Jets game is reeruned. To be fair, I have no better standard to judge the Bills by...certainly not the Chiefs game(great googly moogly indeed) However, the Jets game was a comedy of our errors. But, unless you paid attention to our online radio/message boards, you'd have no way of knowing this. The Jets themselves had little to do with winning that game...and this will become obvious to you in a few weeks.

3. Well you might have known: ask David Decastro(Steelers, our 3rd preseason game) what he thinks about the Bills D line. Ask Big Ben. Wait...don't. According to Ben, it was our turf that blew Decastro back 5 yards into him, not Dareus...and not their RT, who was being blown back by Williams, falling on Decastro's knee = IR.

Given that, and what I've read here over the last week...

1. Do you buy into this "Pats* way" thing?

2. Do you think that, when they won SBs, Belechick was living off of Parcells drafts and getting lucky with Brady? (or do you believe that drafting a HOF Qb in the 6th round was intentional, and just another example of the "genius of the way"?)

3. The reason I ask 1-2, is because Belechik hasn't had a good draft...since Pioli left. (We'll see about this year...but so far? Losing to the Cards, with Kolb as QB?) That's right, check out the last 5 Belechick drafts. Most of them have been D oriented...and they have all been high round bustfests. (Btw, how's that Spiller pick at #5 looking now? But...but...but...we didn't draft the way the Pats do, and took a RB high, so it must be bad, right ESPN? ) Therefore, do you think that the "Pats* way" = The Emporer's New Clothes, or, it is just that the "Pats* way" has been poorly executed in the last few years?

The thing that boggles us...is that from our perspective...Pioli was/is the difference, and he's the reason the Pats* were good. But, you spend 5 minutes on this site, and you see a very different story. I had no idea that Pioli was a big fan of the NSA, and that Whaley thought his phone was tapped. WTF is all this? I don't even know what to think about it. It's obvious why a guy like Chan Gailey wouldn't fit into this organization. He's too nice, sure, but more importantly, he's far too straightforward.

Not only that...but you have had Weiss, and have Crennel...the other parts of the "Pats* way" and it hasn't done much.

Perhaps the sum of the parts is the only "way", and that by themselves they are awful?

Anyway, if any of you can shed some light on this, I would appreciate it.

The Patriot Way is a farce. Always has been. The Patriot Way is Tom Brady.

[KCUnited]

****s given = the number of sacks we had on Sunday.

[BigMeatballDave]

The 'Patriot Way' is Tom Brady.

And Scott Pioli is a ****ing fraud.

[Munson]

Its complete bullshit. The Patriots Way begins and ends with Tom Brady. Without him, they are an average team.

[New World Order]

Didn't read

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tl:dr

[PRIEST]

Originally Posted by Dave

The 'Patriot Way' is Tom Brady.

And Scott Pioli is a ****ing fraud.

This for sure

[Fish]

Yeah... we got this last year when Buffalo trounced the Chiefs. And then we watched you guys fall all over yourselves and lose 8 of your last 9 games.

You beat a lousy Chiefs team with serious problems. That's the only thing to take from this. All the other questions are irrelevant, and have probably been asked and opined on hundreds of times.

[Black Bob]

Pioli Bad

Brady Good

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Fitz is still incredibly shitty. Some of those passes were embarrasingly bad. Chiefs could have lost by 50.

[KChiefer]

Didn't the Pats go to the SB last year??? So what's all this "the Pats were good" nonsense???

Good job kicking our ass two years in a row. Enjoy your 2nd/3rd place finish in the AFCE.