Chiefs I think its time for the Cassel doubters to eat their crow - Page 32

RedThat · 12-19-2010, 03:44 PM

The kid deserves some respect.

After todays game Im starting to believe in the guy as our quarterback. He just displayed a true testament of toughness out there and leadership.

To some people I understand its about him leading us to the playoffs and winning the superbowl in order for them to be satisfied...yada yada yada

Im not going to go by that mindset at all. I look at this game and I see the way he played and it tells me a lot about his character. We should be proud. We got a pretty good quarterback folks. That 2nd round pick we gave up was well worth it.

I think composure, toughness, and leadership are key attributes for a quarterback. Cassel has those qualities and I also love the fact that he plays with passion too.

However, I believe the number one attribute as a quarterback is the ability to respond under pressure. So now I don't want to jump the gun here and say he has that capability, but I will say, after coming back from an appendectomy and performing the way he did, is a great sign and a step in the direction towards performing well under pressure. So far so good Matt. Keep up the good work

you sure as heck got my support.

stevieray · 12-19-2010, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sannyasi

. But there is definitely a difference between winning in the regular season and winning in the playoffs. Chiefs fans should know this better than most after all those seasons under Marty.

no, there really isn't. you either win, or you don't. it's another game, with a little more pressure.

marty? pffft. twenty years ago.

Coogs · 12-19-2010, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Sannyasi

If only every team were so lucky to play their playoff games against the Rams and Titans. It might not have been my best phrasing ever; obviously every game matters in the NFL. But there is definitely a difference between winning in the regular season and winning in the playoffs. Chiefs fans should know this better than most after all those seasons under Marty.

Chargers played the Rams. Lost. Played the Titans too. In fact, they played damn near every single team we have played at home and on the road.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-19-2010, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Moeaki has far exceeded expectations and has been huge for Cassel, but I agree, at WR, he didn't do him any favors.

Sans the concussion, he's stayed healthy - that alone means he exceeded most people's expectations.

**The Bad Guy** · 12-19-2010, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Sans the concussion, he's stayed healthy - that alone means he exceeded most people's expectations.

Agreed. His hands have been incredible.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-19-2010, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Agree with the talent level at the position, not feeling confident the elite guys will fall that far.

I'm praying it happens, that's for damn sure.

It's all about scouting.

In the past few years, we've seen guys like Austin Collie, Pierre Garcon, Mike Williams, Louis Murphy and Jacoby Ford slip into the latter half of the draft.

Pioli desperately needs to find a second day gem at WR.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-19-2010, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's all about scouting.

In the past few years, we've seen guys like Austin Collie, Pierre Garcon, Mike Williams, Louis Murphy and Jacoby Ford slip into the latter half of the draft.

Pioli desperately needs to find a second day gem at WR.

Or just remove all doubt and take an elite WR.

No reason to get cute with it, if there's an elite guy there at 20-whatever, take him.

**Buehler445** · 12-19-2010, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's all about scouting.

In the past few years, we've seen guys like Austin Collie, Pierre Garcon, Mike Williams, Louis Murphy and Jacoby Ford slip into the latter half of the draft.

Pioli desperately needs to find a second day gem at WR.

Agree. A big time gem like Ford or Collie. Not a Tucker type gem.

Iconic · 12-19-2010, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I agree but I'm not altogether convinced that Pioli's grading system will allow for a first round WR, unless he has outstanding credentials outside of the football field.

WR's are usually least likely to be team captains, let alone humble.

We don't need to draft a elite Reciever.... Fitz is packing his bags and coming this way as we speak.

**J Diddy** · 12-19-2010, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's all about scouting.

In the past few years, we've seen guys like Austin Collie, Pierre Garcon, Mike Williams, Louis Murphy and Jacoby Ford slip into the latter half of the draft.

Pioli desperately needs to find a second day gem at WR.

What we need is a wr who can dominate at times.. Can be inconsistent at times.Drops easy balls and sometimes will say stupid things. Keep him far away from Bowe, so their cycles won't be the same. That way we'll have at least one Good Bowe to throw to a week.

Ralphy Boy · 12-19-2010, 10:19 PM

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**BossChief** · 12-19-2010, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse

All I'm saying is Cassel didn't have to make a single play in the 4th quarter today.

He played well, but crowning him is premature.

He made plenty of plays along the way that got us the lead so that he didnt really have to.

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Nevermind that we averaged TWO HUNDRED AND ELEVEN yards rushing in our 4 games against the NFC West.

If you want to claim we're "winning games largely due to" anyone, it would be Charles/Jones.

I'd be willing to bet the winning percentage of teams rushing for 200+ is pretty freaking high.

I agree but...

Part of the reason our running game has stayed as effective as it has is because the passing game has taken advantage of its opportunities and kept the defenses honest.

teams havent been able to just stack 8 and 9 in the box to beat us.

johnny961 · 12-19-2010, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Whatever.

If the Chiefs receivers were the strength of this football team (instead of a glaring weakness), Cassel's numbers would be MUCH higher.

Exactly. We need to pick up at least one GOOD WR this offseason.

**Ming the Merciless** · 12-19-2010, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Agree with the talent level at the position, not feeling confident the elite guys will fall that far.

I'm praying it happens, that's for damn sure.

I will JIMP if that happens

**The Bad Guy** · 12-19-2010, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Agree with the talent level at the position, not feeling confident the elite guys will fall that far.

I'm praying it happens, that's for damn sure.

I agree. I think someone like Michael Floyd, who Weis is very familiar with, could be a real nice compliment to Bowe.

One guy I really love is Austin Pettis that could be a 2nd round guy to target if we elect to grab a pass rusher or NT in the first round.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 12-19-2010, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

He made plenty of plays along the way that got us the lead so that he didnt really have to.

I agree but...

Part of the reason our running game has stayed as effective as it has is because the passing game has taken advantage of its opportunities and kept the defenses honest.

teams havent been able to just stack 8 and 9 in the box to beat us.

Teams haven't stacked 8-9 against us all year.

The two teams that even tried to sell out against the run were Cleveland and Oakland.

A win without an offensive TD, and a loss.

12-19-2010, 03:44 PM
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	I think its time for the Cassel doubters to eat their crow The kid deserves some respect. After todays game Im starting to believe in the guy as our quarterback. He just displayed a true testament of toughness out there and leadership. To some people I understand its about him leading us to the playoffs and winning the superbowl in order for them to be satisfied...yada yada yada Im not going to go by that mindset at all. I look at this game and I see the way he played and it tells me a lot about his character. We should be proud. We got a pretty good quarterback folks. That 2nd round pick we gave up was well worth it. I think composure, toughness, and leadership are key attributes for a quarterback. Cassel has those qualities and I also love the fact that he plays with passion too. However, I believe the number one attribute as a quarterback is the ability to respond under pressure. So now I don't want to jump the gun here and say he has that capability, but I will say, after coming back from an appendectomy and performing the way he did, is a great sign and a step in the direction towards performing well under pressure. So far so good Matt. Keep up the good work you sure as heck got my support.
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