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Hootie · 04-14-2013, 08:55 AM

I am not sure why Jon Baldwin sucks to date. I can't tell you if it is because of his QB situation, his work ethic, or his lack of athletic ability. I haven't had enough visual evidence of anything Chiefs related when it comes to guys like Baldwin because we haven't had a QB in years.

Hard to judge a guy like Baldwin after two years. No clue. I'll let you know around week 8 this year since we'll have an actual QB that can at least throw a forward pass somewhat successfully.

**LoneWolf** · 04-14-2013, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

I am not sure why Jon Baldwin sucks to date. I can't tell you if it is because of his QB situation, his work ethic, or his lack of athletic ability. I haven't had enough visual evidence of anything Chiefs related when it comes to guys like Baldwin because we haven't had a QB in years.

Hard to judge a guy like Baldwin after two years. No clue. I'll let you know around week 8 this year since we'll have an actual QB that can at least throw a forward pass somewhat successfully.

OK, I'll concede the shitty QB play.

What about Chad Jackson that was drafted by the Patriots? He had all the traits you listed and was a freakish athlete at Florida. He had Tom Brady throwing to him in the NFL and he never even came close to EXCELLING as a WR.

Are you ready to admit that your statement was stupid and that you sensationalize and exaggerate points in your arguments to attempt to make yourself look less stupid? I think you should.

Sully · 04-14-2013, 09:09 AM

Reggie Miller= best WR Evah!!!

Hootie · 04-14-2013, 09:10 AM

you're talking about NFL ****ing busts

this isn't even the conversation anymore

I'm talking about the premiere athletes in America. Those are NBA players. Plain and simple. The cream of the crop play in the NBA, and my stance on the subject is MANY of these NBA players could successfully transition to the NFL if there was a reason to.

there is not one NFL player that could play in the NBA

IMO, there are SEVERAL NBA players that could play in the NFL

I'm not going to sit here and talk about Jon Baldwin and Chad Jackson when my point was guys like LeBron and Derrick Rose could have excelled in the NFL if there was a reason to pass up the $300M they'll make in NBA contracts for the $30M they would have made in NFL contracts.

**LoneWolf** · 04-14-2013, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

you're talking about NFL ****ing busts

this isn't even the conversation anymore

I'm talking about the premiere athletes in America. Those are NBA players. Plain and simple. The cream of the crop play in the NBA, and my stance on the subject is MANY of these NBA players could successfully transition to the NFL if there was a reason to.

there is not one NFL player that could play in the NBA

IMO, there are SEVERAL NBA players that could play in the NFL

I'm not going to sit here and talk about Jon Baldwin and Chad Jackson when my point was guys like LeBron and Derrick Rose could have excelled in the NFL if there was a reason to pass up the $300M they'll make in NBA contracts for the $30M they would have made in NFL contracts.

Yes, but those busts had all the traits that you said were the ONLY requirements to EXCEL as WRs in the NFL. Are you starting to understand that speaking in absolutes and presenting opinions as facts makes you look like a mouth breathing reerun?

Now please shut the **** up, admit that you are a reerun, and go jerk off to your LeBron James poster.

Hootie · 04-14-2013, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Yes, but those busts had all the traits that you said were the ONLY requirements to EXCEL as WRs in the NFL. Are you starting to understand that speaking in absolutes and presenting opinions as facts makes you look like a mouth breathing reerun?

Now please shut the **** up, admit that you are a reerun, and go jerk off to your LeBron James poster.

No.

My point was...

guys like Jimmy Butler...who will make 100 X more playing in the NBA and take 10000000 X less abuse and live longer lives...could absolutely transition to the NFL if there was a reason to...

ANFERNEE HARDAWAY MADE $120,000,000 DOLLARS IN NBA CONTRACTS.

CHRIS WEBBER MADE $200,000,000 DOLLARS IN NBA CONTRACTS.

Jimmy Butler is not even a top 50 NBA player. Probably not a top 100. He was a late 1st round pick.

Sully · 04-14-2013, 09:11 AM

You can't tell me Anfernee Hardaway wouldn't have been better than Jerry Rice!!!

Sully · 04-14-2013, 09:11 AM

How could the NFL possibly defend Jeremy Lin?!!?

Sully · 04-14-2013, 09:14 AM

No one in the NFL could ever be as good as Jimmy Butler!!!

Hootie · 04-14-2013, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Sully

No one in the NFL could ever be as good as Jimmy Butler!!!

you don't think Jimmy Butler could be a badass TE in the NFL???

a 6'8" athletic BEAST of a man

He would put Jimmy Graham to shame.

Terrible example on your part.

Hootie · 04-14-2013, 09:14 AM

I'm sure Anfernee Hardaway, in the prime of his career, could have played in the NFL. He's not the best example but I have a hard time believing a 6'6" 215 lb. freak athlete couldn't transition to the NFL as a WR if there was a fiscal reason to do so...

Hardaway made $120,500,000 in NBA contracts alone (not counting any endorsements and he had plenty)

Name an NFL receiver that has made $120,000,000 in his NFL career in contracts please.

lcarus · 04-14-2013, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

I'm sure Anfernee Hardaway, in the prime of his career, could have played in the NFL. He's not the best example but I have a hard time believing a 6'6" 215 lb. freak athlete couldn't transition to the NFL as a WR if there was a fiscal reason to do so...

Hardaway made $120,500,000 in NBA contracts alone (not counting any endorsements and he had plenty)

Name an NFL receiver that has made $120,000,000 in his NFL career in contracts please.

Penny would have needed to bulk up a bit. Which I'm sure would have been achievable.

Hootie · 04-14-2013, 09:17 AM

I'm sure this guy (Jimmy Butler) couldn't transition to the NFL!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKpTdYGaQig

He's not a fast, freakish beast of a man or anything.

Sully · 04-14-2013, 09:17 AM

I wish I had half the athleticism as Luol Deng.

-Jamal Charles

Hootie · 04-14-2013, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Sully

I wish I had half the athleticism as Luol Deng.

-Jamal Charles

because I've said what players in the NBA would transition to NFL running backs?

04-14-2013, 08:55 AM	#1
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I am not sure why Jon Baldwin sucks to date. I can't tell you if it is because of his QB situation, his work ethic, or his lack of athletic ability. I haven't had enough visual evidence of anything Chiefs related when it comes to guys like Baldwin because we haven't had a QB in years. Hard to judge a guy like Baldwin after two years. No clue. I'll let you know around week 8 this year since we'll have an actual QB that can at least throw a forward pass somewhat successfully.
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04-14-2013, 09:09 AM	#3
Sully It Goes On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $10026331	Reggie Miller= best WR Evah!!! __________________ "And I don't wish that girl any bad luck," he said, "but I hope she gets hit with a car." - Tommy Lasorda
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04-14-2013, 09:10 AM	#4
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	you're talking about NFL ****ing busts this isn't even the conversation anymore I'm talking about the premiere athletes in America. Those are NBA players. Plain and simple. The cream of the crop play in the NBA, and my stance on the subject is MANY of these NBA players could successfully transition to the NFL if there was a reason to. there is not one NFL player that could play in the NBA IMO, there are SEVERAL NBA players that could play in the NFL I'm not going to sit here and talk about Jon Baldwin and Chad Jackson when my point was guys like LeBron and Derrick Rose could have excelled in the NFL if there was a reason to pass up the $300M they'll make in NBA contracts for the $30M they would have made in NFL contracts.
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04-14-2013, 09:11 AM	#7
Sully It Goes On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $10026331	You can't tell me Anfernee Hardaway wouldn't have been better than Jerry Rice!!! __________________ "And I don't wish that girl any bad luck," he said, "but I hope she gets hit with a car." - Tommy Lasorda
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04-14-2013, 09:11 AM	#8
Sully It Goes On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $10026331	How could the NFL possibly defend Jeremy Lin?!!? __________________ "And I don't wish that girl any bad luck," he said, "but I hope she gets hit with a car." - Tommy Lasorda
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04-14-2013, 09:14 AM	#9
Sully It Goes On Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lees Summit Casino cash: $10026331	No one in the NFL could ever be as good as Jimmy Butler!!! __________________ "And I don't wish that girl any bad luck," he said, "but I hope she gets hit with a car." - Tommy Lasorda
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04-14-2013, 09:17 AM	#13
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I'm sure this guy (Jimmy Butler) couldn't transition to the NFL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKpTdYGaQig He's not a fast, freakish beast of a man or anything.
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