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Old 08-12-2018, 10:58 AM  
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Another Intense Police Shootout
2017- Just released after the suspect was convicted of 2 counts of attempted murder. Trooper Ryan Seiple made a traffic stop on the suspect for speeding at 82 MPH, then initiated a sobriety check. Corporal Seth Kelly was shot 4 times and was clinically dead, before being brought back to life at the hospital.

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Prosecutors said the video depicted the two troopers acting professionally and with restraint during a speeding stop Nov. 7 that unexpectedly turned violent. Defense attorney Janet Jackson unsuccessfully argued self-defense, describing Clary as a scared young man who was getting his first speeding ticket, then was surprised when police moved to handcuff him.

The video showed Seiple hand Clary a ticket and begin to drive away, before the motorist motioned for him to come back. As he talked more with Clary, Seiple became suspicious of whether he was driving impaired, leading to field sobriety tests and Kelly’s arrival at the scene on the side of the highway.

It was when troopers tried to arrest Clary on suspicion of driving under the influence of marijuana that chaos erupted.

A melee between Clary and the troopers lasted one minute and six seconds. The gun battle that followed, just 41 seconds.

Before he ran to his car, grabbed a gun and opened fire, Clary and the troopers grappled on the ground, Clary trying to grab their service handguns and continuing to struggle even after he was repeatedly shocked with stun guns.

The video showed Clary grabbing the handle of Kelly’s holstered gun early in the struggle, before the troopers used their Tasers or punched him.

Clary tried to grab both troopers’ pistols, and succeeded in dislodging the ammunition magazine of Seiple’s. A spare firearm of Kelly’s fell to the ground at one point, which Seiple later picked up, disarmed and threw to the side.

Seiple used his Taser on Clary twice and punched him five times, according to trial testimony. Kelly tasered Clary five times, threw nine punches and kneed him once.

According to a state police expert who examined the video frame-by-frame, Clary and Seiple shot at each other simultaneously, as Clary pointed a handgun at police.

Clary fired all six of his gun’s bullets, Kelly fired 21 rounds and Seiple fired 20 rounds.

Clary, 22, of Chestnuthill Township, was wounded in the gunfight, driving himself to Easton Hospital with injuries that included a bullet lodged in his head.

Clary could face decades in prison when he is sentenced Aug. 31 by Baratta.
http://www.mcall.com/news/police/mc-...706-story.html
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Old 08-12-2018, 01:59 PM   #31
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Old 08-12-2018, 02:05 PM   #32
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Ah, okay. I'm at the mall so my sound is turned off. It would be a bad idea to play the sound of a gunfight here.
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Old 08-12-2018, 02:08 PM   #33
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Old 08-12-2018, 02:09 PM   #34
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Bummer. I shoudn't have watched that.
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Old 08-12-2018, 02:12 PM   #35
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Not my fault cops are not trained properly. It’s funny because they think they’re so tough and hardcore, two of them can’t take one guy .
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Old 08-12-2018, 02:25 PM   #36
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Terrible technique in subduing the perp. Both cops need retrained.
I hate to say it but I totally agree....I'm just baffled they wrestled with that guy for a whole minute and weren't able to get him down...

Sit on his ****ing head or use your whole body weight...seems like one of those rare times where officers didn't use enough force...

And why didn't they blast the guy when they saw him reaching into the car?

They should have unloaded on that **** and ended it right there
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Well my first impression was one thing they did wrong was keep telling the guy to get on his back when they meant stomach. But that’s easy to do under that kind of stress. However after watching a breakdown of the video by Gracie Jiu-Jitsu experts they made a very valid point. We in LE rush to put people on their stomachs to handcuff them. But that allows a table platform to occur if they are combative (knees and hands). That allows for a strong fighting base. While it wasn’t their fault (that’s gow we have all been trained) it’s definitely food for thought.

The second was the flagging of Corporal Kelly by Trooper Seiple at the drivers rear of the suspect vehicle. Could have ended up much worse (blue on blue) but thankfully that was avoided.
When you have a moment, would you please explain your last paragraph for me? I don't know what any of that means. Thank you Officer.
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Old 08-12-2018, 03:22 PM   #38
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When you have a moment, would you please explain your last paragraph for me? I don't know what any of that means. Thank you Officer.
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https://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...?term=FLAGGiNG

Also, "blue on blue" means a police officer accidentally shot another police officer.
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Old 08-12-2018, 03:50 PM   #39
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More cops getting shot & killed because of BLM movement.


Just shoot the ****ers & be done with it.
The trolling moron is strong in this one.
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Old 08-12-2018, 03:59 PM   #40
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The trolling moron is strong in this one.

Cops have to start protecting themselves from these thugs. Shoot first & ask questions later.
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Old 08-12-2018, 04:01 PM   #41
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Those guys are in a no-win situation.

Agreed

I’d be trigger-happy that’s for damn sure.
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More cops getting shot & killed because of BLM movement.


Just shoot the ****ers & be done with it.
So the spike is atributed to blm but not the fall last year?

Seems convinient.
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I don't think the officers hearts were in it due to all the kneeling by the NFL players. They were probably thinking the whole time if we **** this up we'll never be able to enjoy football again.
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It's a fine line between subduing someone who is non-compliant and violating the civil rights of a minority in 2018.

You couldn't pay me enough to be a cop.

Those guys are in a no-win situation.
How are they in a no win situation? There's thousands of well trained cops that do their job correctly and go home knowing they did a good days work. That seems like a win.
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First, this is stupid and your comment is responding to a tremendously small sample size of stops of this sort.

Second, you blame the "spike" in 2018 on the Black Lives Matter movement but the dip in 2017 is conveniently ignored. Do you know the normal standard deviation of these instances year over year? Why did things dip last year even when the movement was hitting its peak?

I'm all for cops protecting themselves and in some ways I think the pendulum may have swung back just far enough. But I think you're an idiot for immediately citing BLM as the cause of something like this.
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