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Old 04-07-2009, 10:44 AM  
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Dickie V. picks KU to win the title next year
Possible kiss of death? lol hope not
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:03 AM   #16
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Like it or not, he's linked to his predecessor and needs to keep up with the Joneses. It's not even remotely fair but it's truth.
What he should be compared with is he one a title in 5 years. Roy won 0 titles in 15.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:03 AM   #17
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If Aldrich and Collins come back, they'll be preseason #1
Where will Missouri be ranked?
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:04 AM   #18
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Additionally, by your logic, Self should be fired because KU doesn't have 11 championships like UCLA.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:06 AM   #19
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Additionally, by your logic, Self should be fired because KU doesn't have 11 championships like UCLA.
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Wow that's some tangent reasoning there. Self and Roy are linked and no amount of complaining or crying will change it. It just is.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:14 AM   #20
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Wow that's some tangent reasoning there. Self and Roy are linked and no amount of complaining or crying will change it. It just is.
I was trying to point out the fault in your logic.

Self won't get any bullshit from me for Roy winning titles at UNC.

Self has already outproduced Roy with the closest possible circumstances. Same school, same timeframe, same recruiting rules...Who gives a **** what he does at UNC? He couldn't get it done at KU, and Self did.

In my mind Self>Roy. I don't give a shit what the media or anyone else tries to tell me. In the closest possible circumstances, Self outproduced Roy.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:14 AM   #21
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Additionally, by your logic, Self should be fired because KU doesn't have 11 championships like UCLA.
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Give him a Sam Gilbert and he will.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:14 AM   #22
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:16 AM   #23
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I don't compare them, either. It's over as far as I'm concerned.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:23 AM   #24
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As totally unfair as it is, Bill Self needs to win another title soon because of last night.
Says who? The fans? The boosters? Perkins?

Self is just fine.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:32 AM   #25
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Like it or not, he's linked to his predecessor and needs to keep up with the Joneses. It's not even remotely fair but it's truth.
He doesn't need to win another one just because Roy won one.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:34 AM   #26
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He doesn't need to win another one just because Roy won one.
Self did in 5 years what Roy never did in 18. Win a NC at Kansas.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:35 AM   #27
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The Roy saga is (or at least should be) officially over at KU.

It's 100 percent Self's program, just like UNC is 100 percent Roy's. The two have absolutely no relevance to the other.
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:35 AM   #28
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:35 AM   #29
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Old 04-07-2009, 11:39 AM   #30
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I was trying to point out the fault in your logic.

Self won't get any bullshit from me for Roy winning titles at UNC.

Self has already outproduced Roy with the closest possible circumstances. Same school, same timeframe, same recruiting rules...Who gives a **** what he does at UNC? He couldn't get it done at KU, and Self did.

In my mind Self>Roy. I don't give a shit what the media or anyone else tries to tell me. In the closest possible circumstances, Self outproduced Roy.
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I gotta think that if Self were at UNC, they'd still be winning titles.

He's a superior coach AND recruiter when compared to Roy, IMO.

I know some KU fans might take offense, but I think UNC is slightly ahead of KU in terms of prestige. Frankly, I'd be concerned if Roy couldn't win there, considering what he has at his disposal.
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