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Old 03-18-2013, 11:56 PM  
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****Official 2013-14 Missouri Tiger Football Repository Thread****

We have two things to look forward to this year:

1) The potential beginning of the Maty Mauk Era. Mauk represents the best chance for this program to get back to a level of respectability after horrendous QB play cost us multiple games last year.

2) The last year of the Gary Pinkel era. Pinkel's entrenched cronyism won't play in a conference this competitive, especially if he couples his abysmal gameday coaching with lackadaisical, worst-in-conference recruiting. Pinkel was the formerly adequate meal that has now turned into a four pound bowel obstruction. It's time to jam a Fleet's enema up our collective asses.

Here is the schedule. We dodge Alabama, LSU, and Arkansas in the west and the Non-con is decidedly weaker than years past.

8/31: Murray State
9/7: Toledo
9/21: @ Indiana
9/28: Arkansas State
10/5:@ Vanderbilt
10/12: @ Georgia
10/19:Florida
10/26: South Carolina
11/2:Tennessee
11/9: @ Kentucky
11/23: @ Ole Miss
11/30: aTm

Looks like 6-6. Undefeated in non-con, 2-6 in league play.

I will eventually update the OP with a list of high profile in-state recruits that decide to go elsewhere after a half-assed attempt to gain their services. The inevitable cavalcade of *** rejects, skeezers, skanks, and scalliwags we get will fill out the ranks.


Razors, cyanide capsules, and Jonestown Kool-Aid are available in the break room. Second door on the left.

Since every Mizzou thread eventually dies of AIDS, I recommend starting anti-retroviral therapy immediately. I believe Walgreens covers Express Scripts.


Premium In-State Players:

Roderick Johnson: **** OT, Florissant, MO.
Monte Harrison: **** WR, Lee's Summit, MO.
Jimmy Swain: **** LB, Lee's Summit, MO


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Old 10-22-2013, 02:53 PM   #2131
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Anyone else concerned that if Henson does a little too good that he will be gone after this year? It seems like all it takes is one great year out of an OC and he gets a head coaching gig these days.
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Old 10-22-2013, 03:04 PM   #2132
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Everything you posted is spot on with Pinkel....but the above is true with just about any coach. Not really indigenuous to just him.
Without question.

That's exactly my point - to sit around and bitch at the people that were ready to move on from Pinkel is just stupid, there are very very few coaches in D1 football that have the cache to survive the shots Pinkel took over the last 2 years (many of them self-inflicted).

Pinkel deserved his heat. Rather than apologizing to people that are beating their chests because "they believed in Gary all along!!!!!", I'd prefer tell them to grow the !@#$ up and be willing to critically evaluate their program.
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Old 10-22-2013, 03:10 PM   #2133
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Without question.

That's exactly my point - to sit around and bitch at the people that were ready to move on from Pinkel is just stupid, there are very very few coaches in D1 football that have the cache to survive the shots Pinkel took over the last 2 years (many of them self-inflicted).

Pinkel deserved his heat. Rather than apologizing to people that are beating their chests because "they believed in Gary all along!!!!!", I'd prefer tell them to grow the !@#$ up and be willing to critically evaluate their program.
But he was absolutely one deservedly so.

I will continue to laugh at fatalists. But at the least the fatalists have some reasoning behind the way they think...it makes sense.

Knee jerk reacting game thread dumb asses are simply the worst. Making fun of them while enjoying the games...it is a one two punch of fun that this season has blessed me with.
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Old 10-22-2013, 03:18 PM   #2134
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But he was absolutely one deservedly so.

I will continue to laugh at fatalists. But at the least the fatalists have some reasoning behind the way they think...it makes sense.

Knee jerk reacting game thread dumb asses are simply the worst. Making fun of them while enjoying the games...it is a one two punch of fun that this season has blessed me with.
He stepped on his dick repeatedly before and during the most important season in the program's history. Admittedly, this is a program that he absolutely resurrected, so it's fitting that he puts it right back on track in a big-time way this year.

Good for him. Wouldn't have bet on it, but I'm sure as hell enjoying it.
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He stepped on his dick repeatedly before and during the most important season in the program's history. Admittedly, this is a program that he absolutely resurrected, so it's fitting that he puts it right back on track in a big-time way this year.

Good for him. Wouldn't have bet on it, but I'm sure as hell enjoying it.
Oh yea...my position isn't that he is above criticism for sure.
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Old 10-22-2013, 03:49 PM   #2136
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This is Pinkel's best coaching effort ever. Looking back at 2007, the NFL level talent was incredible. I'm not sure we look back 5 years from now at this team and marvel at the number of players making plays on Sundays.
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Without question.

That's exactly my point - to sit around and bitch at the people that were ready to move on from Pinkel is just stupid, there are very very few coaches in D1 football that have the cache to survive the shots Pinkel took over the last 2 years (many of them self-inflicted).

Pinkel deserved his heat. Rather than apologizing to people that are beating their chests because "they believed in Gary all along!!!!!", I'd prefer tell them to grow the !@#$ up and be willing to critically evaluate their program.
It's important to make a distinction between having an honest assessment of a situation in the offseason...especially after everything that went down last year...and demanding his head during a game this year.

Nobody is going to be happy with every coaching decision he makes this year, but the man can coach, and he deserves the benefit of the doubt. His off the field issues (which were then used as an avenue for negative recruiting) were worthy of calling his job into question. His coaching performance is not. Even if you feel (as I do) that he is loyal to a fault when it comes to assistants, it's worthy of criticism...but not calling for his head.
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Old 10-22-2013, 04:13 PM   #2138
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This is Pinkel's best coaching effort ever. Looking back at 2007, the NFL level talent was incredible. I'm not sure we look back 5 years from now at this team and marvel at the number of players making plays on Sundays.
Oh we might.

DGB and Washington will play on Sundays, I think Lucas will as well. I wouldn't be surprised to see one of the RBs make it as a 3rd down back. Sam and Ealy will play at the next level with Sam maybe even being a star. Wilson might make it. I see Gaines making a role for himself as a NCB. I think Britt is an NFL player, though I can't figure out where. Ultimately I see him as a potential G at the next level. Copeland, OTOH, might make a decent center. He's cerebral, strong as a MFer and mean as hell. Boehm will play on Sundays as well, IMO.

Granted, some of these are reaches (Copeland and Lucas standing out to me), but maybe someone like Penton is the next Gaines. Brothers drives me insane with his effort sometimes, but the kid has serious talent. Maybe he surprises me (still only a soph). These DTs are unheralded as hell, but it's been the most productive group of interior lineman I've seen at Mizzou; surely one of them will go on to the next level.

This team may not have the star power of the Maclin//Hood/Spoon/Moore/Daniel/Smith team (because !@#$ me, look at that), but I think we'll have quite a few NFL guys out of this roster.
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Without question.

That's exactly my point - to sit around and bitch at the people that were ready to move on from Pinkel is just stupid, there are very very few coaches in D1 football that have the cache to survive the shots Pinkel took over the last 2 years (many of them self-inflicted).

Pinkel deserved his heat. Rather than apologizing to people that are beating their chests because "they believed in Gary all along!!!!!", I'd prefer tell them to grow the !@#$ up and be willing to critically evaluate their program.
giving him heat made sense;calling for his firing was knee-jerk asinine. My biggest pet peeve, though, were the ones claiming pinkel couldn't make adjustments. Just about anyone could watch the games and see adjustments being made throughout the game. It has apparently become a crutch for the uninitiated.
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Oh we might.

DGB and Washington will play on Sundays, I think Lucas will as well. I wouldn't be surprised to see one of the RBs make it as a 3rd down back. Sam and Ealy will play at the next level with Sam maybe even being a star. Wilson might make it. I see Gaines making a role for himself as a NCB. I think Britt is an NFL player, though I can't figure out where. Ultimately I see him as a potential G at the next level. Copeland, OTOH, might make a decent center. He's cerebral, strong as a MFer and mean as hell. Boehm will play on Sundays as well, IMO.

Granted, some of these are reaches (Copeland and Lucas standing out to me), but maybe someone like Penton is the next Gaines. Brothers drives me insane with his effort sometimes, but the kid has serious talent. Maybe he surprises me (still only a soph). These DTs are unheralded as hell, but it's been the most productive group of interior lineman I've seen at Mizzou; surely one of them will go on to the next level.

This team may not have the star power of the Maclin//Hood/Spoon/Moore/Daniel/Smith team (because !@#$ me, look at that), but I think we'll have quite a few NFL guys out of this roster.
agreed. Sam's height may hold him back a bit, but I'm guessing he's still moving up draft boards as we type.
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Lawgeek(PowerMizzou)'s take on the redshirt freshmen:

The short answer is they are looking very good. For the long answer, I will run through the entire class.

Offense

Eddie Printz is the real deal. He can make every throw and he throws a beautiful, very catchable ball. Great mechanics. Good release. There's a reason his name was bandied about when James got hurt. He's been very impressive. I think his completion rate is in the seventies.

Trent Hosick has improved significantly as a passer. He's dangerous when he's running because of his combination of speed, strength and size (think Belldozer), but he's developing as a passer. Kudos to Coach Hill. I watched Trent a lot in high school and it's remarkable how much he's improved as a passer in the year he's been in the program. I don't know if he will ever have Eddie's passing skills, but Eddie isn't ever going to have Trent's running skills. It will be interesting to see how the QB position plays out in the next few years.

J'Mon Moore would be starting on most teams. He's a ridiculously talented kid who is going to surprise a lot of folks next year. What a luxury to be able to redshirt him and let him spend a season in the S&C program. He's already big, fast and really athletic. He is going to be an impact player next fall. Count on it.

Jason Reese is also going to be an impact player. Jason comes from a high school program that used him a lot as an attached blocking TE, so he's very comfortable in the trenches. However, he has the ball skills of a WR. If he had been at a high school program that threw the ball more, he would have been higher rated. He's a complete package. I'm excited to see him thrown in the mix next year.

Jason and J'Mon are on the scout team and they cause a lot of heartburn for the ones and twos.

Alec Abeln is the heir apparent at center whenever Evan leaves for the NFL. He may be one of the smartest players on the team. Alec is a technically sound true center. I was really impressed with Alec at the scrimmages. Outstanding technique. He's pretty much fully recovered from his shoulder surgery and is doing well at replacing bad weight with good weight and gaining strength. Performing well on the scout team.

Clay Rhodes is running at tackle on the scout team and dealing with Michael, Kony, Shane, Markus and Brayden every day, which is helping him improve in leaps and bounds. He graded out at 100% in the final scrimmage. He's been in a couple of scrums with the DE's recently, so he's obviously feeling his oats. He's getting bigger and stronger.

Chase Abbington is doing well at Hutch JuCo. Averaging over four yards per carry. He's staying in close contact with the guys in his recruiting class and is on campus as much as he can be. I have no doubt he will ultimately make it to CoMo. Once he gets there, he will have three to play three.

Defense

On the defensive line, Marcus Loud is a handful for pretty much anyone. He's a big, strong kid who is blossoming under Coach Kul. He's already at 260 pounds and could easily be up to 270 pounds next fall, making him as big as Kony. Harris is catching on fast and has the athleticism to be similar in style to Sam and Ray. I'm not saying he's going to be like those guys, but he has that kind of athleticism.

The three big boys, Crawford, Logan and Osborne, have all impressed. I've heard several people in the know say some good things about all of them. The depth at DT is really good for the future, particularly if they can keep Antar Thompson in the mix when he is eligible. I haven't heard much about Antar and how he's doing at JuCo.

Zeus is, well, Zeus. He's gotten in trouble on the scout team for filling holes a bit too enthusiastically. That's just his personality. He wants to crack some skulls. You want LBs with that mentality. Eric is killing it in the weight room and, IMO, he will be hard to keep off the field next year.

Joe Burkett is getting healthy and is really impressing folks. That foot injury he had in his senior season was pretty serious, but he's recovered well. Tremendous speed and athleticism. Needs some more weight, but he's eating and lifting with Clay, Eric and Jason, so it will come.

Anthony really got his bell rung in that car wreck. That put him behind a bit, but he's so damn athletic that he's catching up quickly. I don't think he was as polished coming into the program as was Aarion Penton, but Anthony is every bit as athletic and fast as Aarion.

Shaun Rupert has also been very impressive and, had Singleton not qualified, Shaun may have been getting playing time this fall as a true freshman. He has great instincts and ball awareness.

Kicker/Punter

There are two freshmen who are walkons, K Luke Jackson and P/K Preston Soper. I haven't heard much about Jackson. I have heard very good things about Soper.

Overall, there are several of the 2013 kids who have the potential to compete for the two deep and perhaps even starting positions next season. Whether they ultimately realize that potential depends on how well they take care of business between now and then. I know that several of them are doing a lot of extra work, above and beyond Gun Club, to get bigger, faster and stronger. Hopefully, that attitude continues.
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It will be Britt getting his cock pulled through his ass, not Ealy. Still, a stupid ****ing thing to say. Be humble, do your work, and whup some ass. Be like the Cardinals, not the Dodgers.
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Fwiw, to Djln, I had with a fellow MU fan about how good josey would be paired with Charles.

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