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Old 01-12-2013, 09:01 PM   #1
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We have no idea if our scouts are as dumb as ***** or not. Given the fact that he hired them and our drafts were paltry at best, I'm going to go out on a limb and say they probably aren't very ****ing good.
While I hate Pioli, he ran a very good scouting network. It sounded like they were all over the place in scouting players and very thorough, whereas it felt like Peterson's network wasn't that way. It felt like Peterson relied a lot more on making a few phone calls to his buddies than in listening to his scouts.

They always say the first two rounds are typically calls made by the front office. The later rounds go to the scouts. Think our scouting department did a decent job in the late rounds, especially given that they were recruiting talent for flawed schemes. Scouting is a top down process. The better the vision is from the guys up top, the better our scouts are going to be at finding the right guys.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:07 PM   #2
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While I hate *****, he ran a very good scouting network. It sounded like they were all over the place in scouting players and very thorough, whereas it felt like Peterson's network wasn't that way. It felt like Peterson relied a lot more on making a few phone calls to his buddies than in listening to his scouts.

They always say the first two rounds are typically calls made by the front office. The later rounds go to the scouts. Think our scouting department did a decent job in the late rounds, especially given that they were recruiting talent for flawed schemes. Scouting is a top down process. The better the vision is from the guys up top, the better our scouts are going to be at finding the right guys.
You think Peterson's scouts were limited, but Pioli's weren't?

Based on what? Our incredible late round drafting the last 4 years?
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:14 PM   #3
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You think Peterson's scouts were limited, but *****'s weren't?

Based on what? Our incredible late round drafting the last 4 years?
Peterson had a reputation for pulling a lot of players from his network. Even in the late rounds. Made a ton of picks from the Pac 10.

Pioli made the picks based on scouting intelligence. I am convinced he gave his scouts a shitty playbook to follow. How many better picks would we have made if we were recruiting 1-gap players? What about the year Pioli demanded that his scouts pull only captains? Do you blame the scouts for the decision to never take a QB? And Pioli was the stubborn piece of shit that always tried to prove he could field a team with support players. Which is why he reached for so many players.

I wouldn't blame Pioli's shitty draft philosophy on the scouts. I don't know what kind of world people think the football world is where a scout would have anywhere near the power to argue against Pioli.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:08 PM   #4
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While I hate *****, he ran a very good scouting network.
Bullshit.

I can't believe you're still touting that mother****ing piece of shit.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:10 PM   #5
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Bullshit.

I can't believe you're still touting that mother****ing piece of shit.
The takes are just incredible.

It's like he lives in another football universe.

The depth on this team sucks, but the scouts were good?

Get ****ing lost.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:11 PM   #6
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Bullshit.

I can't believe you're still touting that mother****ing piece of shit.
how did he have a good network? All his picks suck except his OLB Houston. Egoli can go get hit by a ****ing train and i wouldnt give 2 dicks
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:15 PM   #7
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Bullshit.

I can't believe you're still touting that mother****ing piece of shit.
Only you would take anything I'm saying about Pioli right now as any kind of compliment.
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Old 01-13-2013, 10:40 AM   #9
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While I hate *****, he ran a very good scouting network. It sounded like they were all over the place in scouting players and very thorough, whereas it felt like Peterson's network wasn't that way. It felt like Peterson relied a lot more on making a few phone calls to his buddies than in listening to his scouts.

They always say the first two rounds are typically calls made by the front office. The later rounds go to the scouts. Think our scouting department did a decent job in the late rounds, especially given that they were recruiting talent for flawed schemes. Scouting is a top down process. The better the vision is from the guys up top, the better our scouts are going to be at finding the right guys.
And Haley was Pioli's first choice all along as well, right?

To the very end you refuse to ever be right about Scott Pioli. But by all means, keep on defending the idiot and trying to argue that he wasn't anything more than another Carl Peterson run amok.

It's beyond sad watching you try to spin your way clear of the garbage you've peddled about that ass-clown for 4 years.
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Old 01-13-2013, 11:10 AM   #10
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And Haley was *****'s first choice all along as well, right?

To the very end you refuse to ever be right about Scott *****. But by all means, keep on defending the idiot and trying to argue that he wasn't anything more than another Carl Peterson run amok.

It's beyond sad watching you try to spin your way clear of the garbage you've peddled about that ass-clown for 4 years.
I'm not going to thread swerve. Re-read what I wrote here and what I've wrote about Pioli for the last 2 years. I said he was a shit GM. I don't mind if people want to call me out for my dumb opinions. But get your facts straight before calling me out for opinions I didn't make.
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