Chiefs Petro a& Lenny "Don't blame the offense" - Page 3

**petegz28** · 12-22-2008, 12:38 PM

On the way to the airport I was listening to Soren and Lenny. While Lenny was a bit more critical of Thigy, both said this game was not the fault of the offense. 500 yard and 31 points should never net you a loss.

Lenny reminded us what some here tried to say yesterday, "offense is fun to watch but defense wins games".

Miami had the ball for 12 minutes in the 4th quarter. That says it right there. That is the game. This offense battled back from poor special teams play and defensive play (opening play), to hand the defense yet another lead.

Both said Thigy's performance is expected for a 1st year QB. Did he make dumb throws? Yes. Should he have had more INT's? Yes. But as Soren pointed out, Pennignton also got away with 2 or 3 balls that were tipped and close to being picked off.

Bottom line is the offense has been moving the ball and scoring and the defense has yet to hold a lead. Again as Lenny said, you can't keep trying to outscore your opponents ala DV. Defense has to show up and play.

Brock · 12-22-2008, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

I'll trade basically the entire Chiefs roster for Carson Palmer.

That's pretty reeruned.

Mecca · 12-22-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

That's pretty reeruned.

You notice I said basically right, it's not like this team has alot of players, outside of 5-10 guys.

**SAUTO** · 12-22-2008, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

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The reeruns have united.....they love Tyler Thigpen but hate Carson Palmer, jesus christ.

see thats why people hate you on here, we're stating a case against a guy and you start calling people reeruns. thats why i ****ing hate you. if you told me you would show up at a function to punch me in the face i would be there with bells on asshole

Hootie · 12-22-2008, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Because Hootie plays fantasy football.....

He told me Palmer had a bad shoulder last night, I like when he doesn't even know what Palmers actual injury is.

He had one good year that put him on the map...the year after that the Bengals won 7 games and he fumbled the ball 15 times...the year after that he threw 20 picks and the Bengals failed to make the playoffs again...

The dude is done. He loses as many, if not more football games than he wins...that's not a franchise QB.

Sorry USC fan boy, Palmer doesn't win you football games. You won't even take the bet on a healthy Palmer winning 7 games for the Bengals next year because you know it's a bad bet...

A franchise QB wins football games...Carson Palmer isn't a franchise QB...so trading our entire roster for a third tier injury prone QB doesn't exactly make you the GM you call yourself.

CoMoChief · 12-22-2008, 01:04 PM

We didnt run it enough to be honest.

LJ avg damn near 10 ypc.

I have no clue on why we didn't continue to run the ball down their throats.

Mecca · 12-22-2008, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

wow you love ANY usc player huh? palmer hasnt been the same since injuring his knee

Boy he was really shitty after blowing out his knee..

2006 Cincinnati 16 93.9 324 520 62.3 4035 252.2 7.8 28 13

Man that's a shitty shitty year.

CoMoChief · 12-22-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

He had one good year that put him on the map...the year after that the Bengals won 7 games and he fumbled the ball 15 times...the year after that he threw 20 picks and the Bengals failed to make the playoffs again...

The dude is done. He loses as many, if not more football games than he wins...that's not a franchise QB.

Sorry USC fan boy, Palmer doesn't win you football games. You won't even take the bet on a healthy Palmer winning 7 games for the Bengals next year because you know it's a bad bet...

A franchise QB wins football games...Carson Palmer isn't a franchise QB...so trading our entire roster for a third tier injury prone QB doesn't exactly make you the GM you call yourself.

This is just a dumb****ing post. Theres no other way to put it.

Mecca · 12-22-2008, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

see thats why people hate you on here, we're stating a case against a guy and you start calling people reeruns. thats why i ****ing hate you. if you told me you would show up at a function to punch me in the face i would be there with bells on asshole

You are railing on a 28 year old QB, that has every tool you could ask a QB to have after supporting Tyler Thigpen, do you understand how dumb that makes you look?

Hootie · 12-22-2008, 01:06 PM

If I had the choice between Carson Palmer and drafting a QB with say...the 25th pick in the draft I'd immediately take the 25th pick without thinking twice.

Every single QB that is successful in today's game and is a 'franchise' QB can move in the pocket...Palmer can't. He's the next Drew Bledsoe...Bledsoe was awesome before the hybrid DE's became a fixture on NFL defenses...then he became a downright liability...look at what Tony Romo has done for that team...and what can he do? Make plays with his feet.

Chiefnj2 · 12-22-2008, 01:07 PM

Palmer had a 41.3 rating against Tennesse this year.
Thigpen had a 68.8 rating against Tennesse this year.

Mecca · 12-22-2008, 01:07 PM

He's not nearly as immobile as Bledsoe was....

And by the way if you haven't noticed, Tony Romo is sucking ass this year.

Mecca · 12-22-2008, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Palmer had a 41.3 rating against Tennesse this year.
Thigpen had a 68.8 rating against Tennesse this year.

Yes it's all based on 1 game.......you are way smarter than that.

Hootie · 12-22-2008, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Boy he was really shitty after blowing out his knee..

2006 Cincinnati 16 93.9 324 520 62.3 4035 252.2 7.8 28 13

Man that's a shitty shitty year.

the year he fumbled 15 times? What is he...Dave Krieg?

How many wins did they have that year?

They go 8-8 or 7-9 every year with Palmer because he's nothing more than average even when he's healthy.

Peyton Manning wins despite that defense...why? Because he's a franchise QB that protects the ball...

You can't be a franchise QB and fumble the ball 15 times in a season.

Demonpenz · 12-22-2008, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

We didnt run it enough to be honest.

LJ avg damn near 10 ypc.

I have no clue on why we didn't continue to run the ball down their throats.

It is good for the team, we save some carries for LJ later on down the line. Then we loose getting us a better pick. The stars are aligning greatly

Mecca · 12-22-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

the year he fumbled 15 times? What is he...Dave Krieg?

How many wins did they have that year?

They go 8-8 or 7-9 every year with Palmer because he's nothing more than average even when he's healthy.

Peyton Manning wins despite that defense...why? Because he's a franchise QB that protects the ball...

You can't be a franchise QB and fumble the ball 15 times in a season.

Take Warren Moon out of the HOF he sucked balls. That is basically what this post is saying.

12-22-2008, 12:38 PM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $2674127	Petro a& Lenny "Don't blame the offense" On the way to the airport I was listening to Soren and Lenny. While Lenny was a bit more critical of Thigy, both said this game was not the fault of the offense. 500 yard and 31 points should never net you a loss. Lenny reminded us what some here tried to say yesterday, "offense is fun to watch but defense wins games". Miami had the ball for 12 minutes in the 4th quarter. That says it right there. That is the game. This offense battled back from poor special teams play and defensive play (opening play), to hand the defense yet another lead. Both said Thigy's performance is expected for a 1st year QB. Did he make dumb throws? Yes. Should he have had more INT's? Yes. But as Soren pointed out, Pennignton also got away with 2 or 3 balls that were tipped and close to being picked off. Bottom line is the offense has been moving the ball and scoring and the defense has yet to hold a lead. Again as Lenny said, you can't keep trying to outscore your opponents ala DV. Defense has to show up and play.
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CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8042254	We didnt run it enough to be honest. LJ avg damn near 10 ypc. I have no clue on why we didn't continue to run the ball down their throats. __________________
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Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	If I had the choice between Carson Palmer and drafting a QB with say...the 25th pick in the draft I'd immediately take the 25th pick without thinking twice. Every single QB that is successful in today's game and is a 'franchise' QB can move in the pocket...Palmer can't. He's the next Drew Bledsoe...Bledsoe was awesome before the hybrid DE's became a fixture on NFL defenses...then he became a downright liability...look at what Tony Romo has done for that team...and what can he do? Make plays with his feet.
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Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $2497050	He's not nearly as immobile as Bledsoe was.... And by the way if you haven't noticed, Tony Romo is sucking ass this year.
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