Royals Thoughts on Game 3 - Page 3

Why Not? · 10-29-2015, 11:47 PM

First thing, are the national media and fans ever going to learn? To be fair, I heard a lot about the Royals early in the day, but by the afternoon it was all about Syndergaard and how if he wins tomorrow, it's a new series, blah blah blah.

Syndergaard has great upside and has pitched well. However, he is clearly inferior to the two pitchers already seen and handled by the Royals. He went 9-7 with a 3.24 era. Hardly Clemens mid to late 80's there. He also has thrown about 30 more innings this year than last, and his best pitch is a plus plus fastball. You know how we handle that. Additionally he is a rookie making his first WS start Under immense pressure. Make no mistake, this is as good as an elimination game for the Mets.

For the above reasons, I think we have the pitching matchup in our favor for this game. No doubt, Ventura has been inconsistent this year and it's been awhile since his last dominant start, but a few things work in his favor:

A)This is his 3rd WS and 9th overall postseason start. You hear from players all the time that there is nothing like post season experience. Syndergaard has had two playoff starts. Game 2 against LA 6 1/3 3 ER and a loss. Decent start. K'd 9 and walked 4. Betcha both of those totals take a nosedive in this game. His 2nd start was game 2 of the NLCS where he went 5 2/3 dominant innings with 1 ER 1 walk and another 9 K. The innings pitched is the main point here. My whole theory has been that out starters did not have to out pitch their Met counterparts, just match them. Volquez did that to a T in game 1 and Cueto obviously out pitched De Grom in game 2. So, can Ventura match Syndergaard for 6 innings? I think he can because

B)Remember, this was supposed to be our ace this year. That didn't quite work out but we all know Ventura has it in him to go 7 shutout innings. He is a pretty emotional guy who looks for reasons to fire himself up. Here are two that I am sure he has to be aware off. First off, literally everyone is talking about how great the guy who is going to save the season for the Mets is. Not much being said about the guy who is pitching for the team up 2-0, going for a kill shot. If I'm Dave Eiland or Salvy or Cueto, I make sure Ace knows that. Secondly, this is a legend play for Ventura. This has a chance to be the last meaningful game of the 2015 WS. I know, you know, the Mets know, the Royals know, everybody knows this series is over at 3-0. The Royals can forfeit games 4 and 5 and the series is still over and we all know it. Last year, Ventura could only look on as the game 7 he got the team to, played out. That had to hurt. Tomorrow(tonight for you guys), for all intents and purposes, he can end the World Series.

C)Volquez, Ventura and Cueto seem really close and like to pick each other up. You saw how Cueto pitched dedicating himself to pitching for Edison's dad. I'm sure Ventura wants to follow suit

And finally,

D)um, the Mets lineup still kinda sucks. Clearly, this was an offensive one trick pony. Keep Murphy in the park, the Mets struggle. Again, much of what I heard on national radio today was how the Mets hitters will be much more comfortable at home and find their grove. I think that's silly. Baseball is baseball. See the ball and hit it. Where you play the game has no ability to influence how you hit a baseball. It may have some influence on what happens to a ball after you hit it(ala Rogers Center or Minute Maid)but the Mets are just not a great lineup. Again, match Syndergaard,go 6 strong and get it to the rested bullpen

This is the chance to step on their throat. Do not give them a single shred of hope. Win tomorrow and the only question remaining is, what day is the parade??

I say Royals 5-2. What say you?

booger · 10-30-2015, 08:12 PM

My thoughts are I think Joe Buck glued a goats pubes to his face

Miss Andrews can grow a better beard

kcxiv · 10-30-2015, 08:47 PM

It might go to 7 games, but a sweep or a 4-1 was highly unlikely. Both teams are really good.

**Iowanian** · 10-30-2015, 08:48 PM

Thoughts on game three.

Since the 3rd inning, it has been like taking a shit....in reverse.

Al Bundy · 10-30-2015, 08:48 PM

Not going well and I got banned from the game thread.. lol

Rasputin · 10-30-2015, 08:50 PM

Thoughts on game three. I'm going have to tell my grandkids about the day Raul Mondesi is the first player in MLB history to make his debut in the World Series.

Why Not? · 10-30-2015, 08:54 PM

Man I was way off about soon to be perennial #3 pitcher Ventura. What an egg that guy laid. Then Ned decided to fold up shop early by pitching a dude who should only appear in 14-2 games

Al Bundy · 10-30-2015, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Why Not?

Man I was way off about soon to be perennial #3 pitcher Ventura. What an egg that guy laid. Then Ned decided to fold up shop early by pitching a dude who should only appear in 14-2 games

Yep, pretty disappointing.

Great Expectations · 10-30-2015, 09:06 PM

Duffy should've gone 3-4 innings, but Ventura shit the bed tonight after being gifted 3 runs in 2 innings. I know cardinal fan hates momentum, but if Ace doesn't shit the bed I think we keep the pressure on Thor and had a chance to win this game 5-3 or 6-4. Instead we started trying to hit 3 run homers with nobody on base and had quick innings allowing him to go longer than I thought he would (there were guys in there pen warming up in the second inning).

Al Bundy · 10-30-2015, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Great Expectations

Duffy should've gone 3-4 innings, but Ventura shit the bed tonight after being gifted 3 runs in 2 innings. I know cardinal fan hates momentum, but if Ace doesn't shit the bed I think we keep the pressure on Thor and had a chance to win this game 5-3 or 6-4. Instead we started trying to hit 3 run homers with nobody on base and had quick innings allowing him to go longer than I thought he would (there were guys in there pen warming up in the second inning).

Ventura was the sole reason the Royals lost.

Why Not? · 10-30-2015, 09:15 PM

I agree. The media will blow Syndergaard and he was good, not great, we got 3 runs with 7 hits and a walk in 6 innings. This was a winnable game. Ventura shit himself and like I said, Ned kind of punted. Do the same thing to Matz tomorrow. I don't see the CY/Medlen combo getting crushed or anything tomorrow. All of our bullpen guys will be good to go, save Morales who Shouldn't appear again, and hopefully Madson finishes here. We can make this mimic the ALCS

Great Expectations · 10-30-2015, 09:18 PM

Yep, with Madson (who had a great stretch earlier in the year) and Morales out of the equation our bullpen should be much better tomorrow. My main concern is our struggles vs lefties.

**Baby Lee** · 10-30-2015, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Guru

All I care about is that it doesn't go to extra innnings

There you go.

Looks like not even the full 9.

**Bearcat** · 10-30-2015, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

There you go. :thumbs:

Looks like not even the full 9.

WHEW!

booger · 10-30-2015, 09:21 PM

Wtf is a met anyway?

**Baby Lee** · 10-30-2015, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by booger

Wtf is a met anyway?

A city slicker.

10-29-2015, 11:47 PM
Why Not? In Search of a Life Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Kansas Casino cash: $3038994	Thoughts on Game 3 First thing, are the national media and fans ever going to learn? To be fair, I heard a lot about the Royals early in the day, but by the afternoon it was all about Syndergaard and how if he wins tomorrow, it's a new series, blah blah blah. Syndergaard has great upside and has pitched well. However, he is clearly inferior to the two pitchers already seen and handled by the Royals. He went 9-7 with a 3.24 era. Hardly Clemens mid to late 80's there. He also has thrown about 30 more innings this year than last, and his best pitch is a plus plus fastball. You know how we handle that. Additionally he is a rookie making his first WS start Under immense pressure. Make no mistake, this is as good as an elimination game for the Mets. For the above reasons, I think we have the pitching matchup in our favor for this game. No doubt, Ventura has been inconsistent this year and it's been awhile since his last dominant start, but a few things work in his favor: A)This is his 3rd WS and 9th overall postseason start. You hear from players all the time that there is nothing like post season experience. Syndergaard has had two playoff starts. Game 2 against LA 6 1/3 3 ER and a loss. Decent start. K'd 9 and walked 4. Betcha both of those totals take a nosedive in this game. His 2nd start was game 2 of the NLCS where he went 5 2/3 dominant innings with 1 ER 1 walk and another 9 K. The innings pitched is the main point here. My whole theory has been that out starters did not have to out pitch their Met counterparts, just match them. Volquez did that to a T in game 1 and Cueto obviously out pitched De Grom in game 2. So, can Ventura match Syndergaard for 6 innings? I think he can because B)Remember, this was supposed to be our ace this year. That didn't quite work out but we all know Ventura has it in him to go 7 shutout innings. He is a pretty emotional guy who looks for reasons to fire himself up. Here are two that I am sure he has to be aware off. First off, literally everyone is talking about how great the guy who is going to save the season for the Mets is. Not much being said about the guy who is pitching for the team up 2-0, going for a kill shot. If I'm Dave Eiland or Salvy or Cueto, I make sure Ace knows that. Secondly, this is a legend play for Ventura. This has a chance to be the last meaningful game of the 2015 WS. I know, you know, the Mets know, the Royals know, everybody knows this series is over at 3-0. The Royals can forfeit games 4 and 5 and the series is still over and we all know it. Last year, Ventura could only look on as the game 7 he got the team to, played out. That had to hurt. Tomorrow(tonight for you guys), for all intents and purposes, he can end the World Series. C)Volquez, Ventura and Cueto seem really close and like to pick each other up. You saw how Cueto pitched dedicating himself to pitching for Edison's dad. I'm sure Ventura wants to follow suit And finally, D)um, the Mets lineup still kinda sucks. Clearly, this was an offensive one trick pony. Keep Murphy in the park, the Mets struggle. Again, much of what I heard on national radio today was how the Mets hitters will be much more comfortable at home and find their grove. I think that's silly. Baseball is baseball. See the ball and hit it. Where you play the game has no ability to influence how you hit a baseball. It may have some influence on what happens to a ball after you hit it(ala Rogers Center or Minute Maid)but the Mets are just not a great lineup. Again, match Syndergaard,go 6 strong and get it to the rested bullpen This is the chance to step on their throat. Do not give them a single shred of hope. Win tomorrow and the only question remaining is, what day is the parade?? I say Royals 5-2. What say you?
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10-30-2015, 08:12 PM	#31
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10-30-2015, 08:48 PM	#33
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10-30-2015, 08:54 PM	#36
Why Not? In Search of a Life Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Kansas Casino cash: $3038994	Man I was way off about soon to be perennial #3 pitcher Ventura. What an egg that guy laid. Then Ned decided to fold up shop early by pitching a dude who should only appear in 14-2 games
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10-30-2015, 09:06 PM	#38
Great Expectations MVP Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Joplin, MO Casino cash: $13562338	Duffy should've gone 3-4 innings, but Ventura shit the bed tonight after being gifted 3 runs in 2 innings. I know cardinal fan hates momentum, but if Ace doesn't shit the bed I think we keep the pressure on Thor and had a chance to win this game 5-3 or 6-4. Instead we started trying to hit 3 run homers with nobody on base and had quick innings allowing him to go longer than I thought he would (there were guys in there pen warming up in the second inning). __________________
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10-30-2015, 09:15 PM	#40
Why Not? In Search of a Life Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Kansas Casino cash: $3038994	I agree. The media will blow Syndergaard and he was good, not great, we got 3 runs with 7 hits and a walk in 6 innings. This was a winnable game. Ventura shit himself and like I said, Ned kind of punted. Do the same thing to Matz tomorrow. I don't see the CY/Medlen combo getting crushed or anything tomorrow. All of our bullpen guys will be good to go, save Morales who Shouldn't appear again, and hopefully Madson finishes here. We can make this mimic the ALCS
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10-30-2015, 09:18 PM	#41
Great Expectations MVP Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Joplin, MO Casino cash: $13562338	Yep, with Madson (who had a great stretch earlier in the year) and Morales out of the equation our bullpen should be much better tomorrow. My main concern is our struggles vs lefties. __________________
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10-30-2015, 09:21 PM	#44
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