Nine Inch Nails New Album, "Hesitation Marks" Available on 9/3/13

[rico]

Any other NIN fans here? Trent will be releasing a new album, "Hesitation Marks." available on 9/3/13. The single (youtube below) is titled, "Came Back Haunted." I think it's alright. Not totally thrilled, but it's not bad. If anything, it's refreshing to hear new NIN stuff in general. IMO, you can hear the Skinny Puppy influence in this song. Also kind of reminds me of what little I've heard from his "prior to NIN" band, Exotic Birds. Can't pinpoint why, exactly.

[rico]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Trent doesn't have a social anxiety disorder. He's a talented guy that had too much fame too quickly, used it up (and believe me, he used it up), tried to come back to earth, couldn't, then cut off everyone

When he married his current wife, it was a shock to everyone around him, even his closest and oldest friends. He wanted to jump start her career, got bored, then started scoring film and now he's back to NIN.

He's a very talented guy but can't figure out where to put his energy. But the bottom line is that his music has grown stale and his audience is bored.

And judging by the recent defections of his current touring band, so is everyone around him.

Me being a NIN fanatic, that is EXTREMELY interesting to me. Not implying that I am doubting you, just saying, that is genuinely, extremely interesting stuff....so many NIN fans are either in the dark or just kind of believe the folklore that has been associated with him.

Speaking of his wife. My gosh, when he married her, there were some ROYALLY butt-hurt goth chicks. I'm not even joking when I say that he probably lost some female fans when he married her. I mean, I'm not saying the loss was anything substantial...but the butt-hurt was definitely noticeable. A lot of NIN female fans literally seemed inclined to believe that they stood a chance. No joke. His females fans are insecure, delusional and obsessive.

[rico]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Trent doesn't have a social anxiety disorder. He's a talented guy that had too much fame too quickly, used it up (and believe me, he used it up), tried to come back to earth, couldn't, then cut off everyone

When he married his current wife, it was a shock to everyone around him, even his closest and oldest friends. He wanted to jump start her career, got bored, then started scoring film and now he's back to NIN.

He's a very talented guy but can't figure out where to put his energy. But the bottom line is that his music has grown stale and his audience is bored.

And judging by the recent defections of his current touring band, so is everyone around him.

If he were to change things up a bit and possibly figure things out in terms of the path he needs to be on, do you think he will ever produce any solo stuff in the future? I know the ol' "Pretty Hate Machine," "Nine Inch Nails is Trent Reznor," so yeah, people already make the argument that NIN IS his solo act...which is, I'm assuming, false?

If it is indeed false, what path do you think he would take? Do you think he would continue down the electronic path? Piano stuff?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by rico

Me being a NIN fanatic, that is EXTREMELY interesting to me. Not implying that I am doubting you, just saying, that is genuinely, extremely interesting stuff....so many NIN fans are either in the dark or just kind of believe the folklore that has been associated with him.

Speaking of his wife. My gosh, when he married her, there were some ROYALLY butt-hurt goth chicks. I'm not even joking when I say that he probably lost some female fans when he married her. I mean, I'm not saying the loss was anything substantial...but the butt-hurt was definitely noticeable. A lot of NIN female fans literally seemed inclined to believe that they stood a chance. No joke. His females fans are insecure, delusional and obsessive.

Dude, I know FAR MORE than I should about his "situation". I actually know far more than I'd ever like to know about his sitch.

I was (emphasis on "was") a fan of him, musically, after the release of "The Fragile". I learned far too much about his personal life, IMO, through various friends and such shortly thereafter (and pretty much, right up until today).

Some things are better left to the imagination and to the "ether".

[rico]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dude, I know FAR MORE than I should about his "situation". I actually know far more than I'd ever like to know about his sitch.

I was (emphasis on "was") a fan of him, musically, after the release of "The Fragile". I learned far too much about his personal life, IMO, through various friends and such shortly thereafter (and pretty much, right up until today).

Some things are better left to the imagination and to the "ether".

I agree. Say no more about that stuff.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by rico

If he were to change things up a bit and possibly figure things out in terms of the path he needs to be on, do you think he will ever produce any solo stuff in the future? I know the ol' "Pretty Hate Machine," "Nine Inch Nails is Trent Reznor," so yeah, people already make the argument that NIN IS his solo act...which is, I'm assuming, false?

If it is indeed false, what path do you think he would take? Do you think he would continue down the electronic path? Piano stuff?

All I can provide is conjecture. But at this point, Trent is hired to be Trent. If his audience continues to wane, he'll have no other "choice" (and believe me, it's the most awesome choice of all) to score film and maybe eventually, TV.

But a horse is a horse is a horse. His sensibilities are his and that's why he's been hired to score. I'm sure he's "capable" of more but will anyone let him go there?

That's the $4 million dollar question.

[Ebolapox]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dude, I know FAR MORE than I should about his "situation". I actually know far more than I'd ever like to know about his sitch.

I was (emphasis on "was") a fan of him, musically, after the release of "The Fragile". I learned far too much about his personal life, IMO, through various friends and such shortly thereafter (and pretty much, right up until today).

Some things are better left to the imagination and to the "ether".

hell, PM ME DEETS! you know I dig that shit. shit, you still owe me some michael jackson stories too, ya bastard.

[rico]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

All I can provide is conjecture. But at this point, Trent is hired to be Trent. If his audience continues to wane, he'll have no other "choice" (and believe me, it's the most awesome choice of all) to score film and maybe eventually, TV.

But a horse is a horse is a horse. His sensibilities are his and that's why he's been hired to score. I'm sure he's "capable" of more but will anyone let him go there?

That's the $4 million dollar question.

Oh how I love being stuck in friggy-diggy-sheltered rural Iowa. This is some interesting shit.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by rico

Oh how I love being stuck in friggy-diggy-sheltered rural Iowa. This is some interesting shit.

Someday, I'll PM you and Ebola and so many others, when time permits.

I used to be able to share so much on this site back in the mid-2000's because it wasn't as populated and essentially, no one knew my identity. But now, it's very different.

I have to catch myself now and again, even in real life. I said some not-so-flattering things about Damon Lindelof at a lunch recently, only to bite my tongue after I said it (the people I was with work at Warner's).

Since I do work in this business, I have to be careful, even when "anonymous" on this site. I can share to a point but that's pretty much it (and I've had to edit comments the next day too many times to count).

[rico]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Someday, I'll PM you and Ebola and so many others, when time permits.

I used to be able to share so much on this site back in the mid-2000's because it wasn't as populated and essentially, no one knew my identity. But now, it's very different.

I have to catch myself now and again, even in real life. I said some not-so-flattering things about Damon Lindelof at a lunch recently, only to bite my tongue after I said it (the people I was with work at Warner's).

Since I do work in this business, I have to be careful, even when "anonymous" on this site. I can share to a point but that's pretty much it (and I've had to edit comments the next day too many times to count).

It's cool. Don't feel pressured to share anything that exceeds your comfort zone, for if it's one thing I understand, it's feeling as if you inadvertently said to much to the wrong individual and/or group of people. If I were in your situation (which sounds like an important one in terms of the entertainment industry), I would probably have to bite my tongue frequently because if it's one thing you've probably noticed about me, it's that I have a tendency to get on huge kicks, sometimes structure it well, and sometimes ramble/over-exert myself and inadvertently say too much in the process without realizing it until afterwards. Stay in your comfort zone, dude...I respect that. Extremely interesting shit, though.

[AphexPhin]

thanks for the heads up. Not a fan of the new single though. Hope the rest of the album is better.

Anyone else a fan of The Social Network soundtrack? Trent did the score and nailed it out of the park imo

[rico]

Originally Posted by AphexPhin

thanks for the heads up. Not a fan of the new single though. Hope the rest of the album is better.

Anyone else a fan of The Social Network soundtrack? Trent did the score and nailed it out of the park imo

It's nothing that I would buy and actually play in my car as I have Requiem for a Dream's soundtrack composed by Clint Mansell, performed by Kronos Quartet, but I thought it was awesome to listen to while watching the movie.

[The Franchise]

Trent Reznor is now on the same level as Marilyn Manson to me. Huge fan of their music throughout my life.....but it's gotten to the point now where I WANT to like their stuff.....but it's ****ing hard. Like Dane said.....he should stick to composing.....he's awesome at that.

[Third Eye]

I've been a NIN fan since 7th or 8th grade when I first heard Pretty Hate Machine. Like many others, I wasn't exactly blown away by the last several releases before the hiatus, but it was still NIN and I still went to the live shows.

Now it's probably my fault, but I totally bought into all the hype over the last few months about how Trent was taking NIN in an entirely new direction. While everyone likes to talk about The Social Network, I was privately hoping for something a little more ambient and atmospheric like his work on Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. Add in the Belew factor (if you've never seen the Talking Heads live in Rome, do it now. It's on YouTube in its entirety) and I was properly excited.

Then this week happened. Damn it! Suffice it to say, my expectations have been tempered. The new single isn't terrible, it just isn't great either, and it certainly doesn't differentiate itself from latter day NIN. I'm not panicking yet, even The Fragile had Star****ers. However, if this is the lead single, I'm not exactly filled with hope.

As an aside: Dane, with your inside knowledge, any idea why Tapeworm never happened? I've always assumed it was a case of too many chiefs and not enough indians, but Maynard seemed to genuinely like the material considering the APC and Puscifer versions of Tapeworm songs.

[rico]

Originally Posted by Third Eye

I've been a NIN fan since 7th or 8th grade when I first heard Pretty Hate Machine. Like many others, I wasn't exactly blown away by the last several releases before the hiatus, but it was still NIN and I still went to the live shows.

Now it's probably my fault, but I totally bought into all the hype over the last few months about how Trent was taking NIN in an entirely new direction. While everyone likes to talk about The Social Network, I was privately hoping for something a little more ambient and atmospheric like his work on Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. Add in the Belew factor (if you've never seen the Talking Heads live in Rome, do it now. It's on YouTube in its entirety) and I was properly excited.

Then this week happened. Damn it! Suffice it to say, my expectations have been tempered. The new single isn't terrible, it just isn't great either, and it certainly doesn't differentiate itself from latter day NIN. I'm not panicking yet, even The Fragile had Star****ers. However, if this is the lead single, I'm not exactly filled with hope.

As an aside: Dane, with your inside knowledge, any idea why Tapeworm never happened? I've always assumed it was a case of too many chiefs and not enough indians, but Maynard seemed to genuinely like the material considering the APC and Puscifer versions of Tapeworm songs.

I've wondered that myself. I've heard so many varying rumors regarding Tapeworm.

I haven't lost hope completely, yet. In most NIN albums, a few of the songs that don't become hits end up being my faves.

[patteeu]

Geez, you just can't trust a guy when he says he's on his farewell tour.