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**Baby Lee** · 05:45 AM

Is anyone watching this?

Completely under the radar. Then a few people were hyping by word of mouth. Only a couple episodes in, but holy schnikes. Super rich [I'm talking owning Manhattan skyscrapers rich, nearly billions in the '70s rich] dude slumming, killing people, dismembering them and tossing them in the ocean. And no one was talking about this???

This decades after his stunning wife disappears without a trace back in '82. Then when he says unprovoked of his own volition 'I was complicit in her non-existence any more?' Wow.

Looks like there's more to the story because they are interviewing him first person, but it's off to a roaring start.

Some compared it to True Detective and the podcast Serial.

According to him, his father took him TO THE WINDOW to watch his mother jump off the roof when he was like 7.

Truly it's like finding out that American Horror Story is a documentary. Really destroys your faith in humanity.

And for Sopranos fans, phone records place him in the Pine Barrens days after she disappeared.

Most shocking story I've witnessed since Donald Sterling broke. Wow!!

And my GOD, the blinking that this guys does in his interviews. Creepiest thing since the series on The Iceman with his dead ****ing stare

NewChief · 03-17-2015, 07:09 PM

Went through 3 of them last night. Maybe it's because I already know the end of the story, but it's just sort of... eh... so far.

NewChief · 03-18-2015, 07:58 AM

So the last two episodes certainly made this worth watching, though the fact that I already knew the outcome hurt it somewhat. Pretty incredible that these filmmakers broke this story while shooting a long form documentary.

When Susan Berman's "son" finds the letter and realizes Durst's guilt... that's good stuff. Then when they're preparing to confront Durst and finally do it. Riveting. The rest of it felt pretty much like a Dateline or 20/20

It actually kind of reminds me of Mistaken for Strangers, the documentary about the National which really becomes interesting when it becomes "meta" and becomes about the making of the documentary itself vs. the actual subject of the documentary. There's something riveting about a documentary, then at a certain point having that shift to where the curtain gets peeled back and you're seeing the documentary get made.

**Baby Lee** · 03-18-2015, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by NewChief

So the last two episodes certainly made this worth watching, though the fact that I already knew the outcome hurt it somewhat. Pretty incredible that these filmmakers broke this story while shooting a long form documentary.

When Susan Berman's "son" finds the letter and realizes Durst's guilt... that's good stuff. Then when they're preparing to confront Durst and finally do it. Riveting. The rest of it felt pretty much like a Dateline or 20/20.

Did you know the details as well as the end?

The interest of the series for me were, in descending order
1. The almost wacky, almost Fargo-esque, details of the alleged crimes. If only Bob knew about wood chippers.
2. Bob's background and upbringing/family relationship
3. Bob's personality, the matter of fact way he could either baldly lie or admit the most heinous things, and the subtle resentment that worked into his demeanor when discussing his brother.

The ending was a denouement.

NewChief · 03-18-2015, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Did you know the details as well as the end?

The interest of the series for me were, in descending order
1. The almost wacky, almost Fargo-esque, details of the alleged crimes. If only Bob knew about wood chippers.
2. Bob's background and upbringing/family relationship
3. Bob's personality, the matter of fact way he could either baldly lie or admit the most heinous things, and the subtle resentment that worked into his demeanor when discussing his brother.

The ending was a denouement.

Bob was compelling and interesting. I kind of knew the details, but I think, from the initial post in here, I thought it was even worse than it was (not that it wasn't bad). For some reason, I interpreted the initial post about body parts and his childhood trauma with his mother's suicide to mean that he was mass murdering people like a serial killer. So I guess it wasn't grotesque enough for me, heh.

**BigMeatballDave** · 03-18-2015, 08:17 AM

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NEW ORLEANS (AP) – A Louisiana State Police trooper says millionaire Robert Durst has been booked on weapons charges in that state – on top of a first-degree murder charge lodged by Los Angeles authorities. Trooper Melissa Matey told the Associated Press that an arrest warrant was issued for the former Limp Bizkit frontman and he was rebooked in the Orleans Parish Jail on Monday under two new charges.

NewChief · 03-18-2015, 08:27 AM

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That gets better:

http://www.stereogum.com/1788116/ap-...p-bizkit/news/

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AP Issues Correction Acknowledging Robert Durst Was Not In Limp Bizkit

On Saturday, Robert Durst — millionaire real estate heir, subject of HBO’s true crime miniseries The Jinx, and alleged murderer — was arrested in New Orleans. Limp Bizkit frontman Fred Durst, no relation, remains at large. The Associated Press, however, isn’t so sure about that. According to a report that went out Monday evening over a California broadcast wire:

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A Louisiana State Police trooper says millionaire Robert Durst has been booked on weapons charges in that state — on top of a first-degree murder charge lodged by Los Angeles authorities. Trooper Melissa Matey told the Associated Press that an arrest warrant was issued for the former Limp Bizkit frontman and he was rebooked in the Orleans Parish Jail on Monday under two new charges.

After media blogger Jim Romenesko pointed out their mistake, the AP issued a classic correction statement:

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In the second item of the California 10th NewsMinute sent March 16 to users of the state broadcast wire, The Associated Press reported erroneously that Robert Durst is a member of a band. He is a real estate heir; Fred Durst is the former frontman of Limp Bizkit.

Sadly, they still got it wrong — Fred Durst is still the frontman of Limp Bizkit. But yes, whatever crimes against music and/or good taste one might accuse him of, Fred Durst is definitely not a murderer.

Red Brooklyn · 03-18-2015, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Did you know the details as well as the end?

The interest of the series for me were, in descending order
1. The almost wacky, almost Fargo-esque, details of the alleged crimes. If only Bob knew about wood chippers.
2. Bob's background and upbringing/family relationship
3. Bob's personality, the matter of fact way he could either baldly lie or admit the most heinous things, and the subtle resentment that worked into his demeanor when discussing his brother.

The ending was a denouement.

Yerp. +1

Red Brooklyn · 03-18-2015, 09:17 AM

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I'm sure he does, but their are solid, objective, discrepancies in there

http://morningafter.gawker.com/what-...26885/+richjuz

I'm a little concerned that this is going to end up being a bigger deal than it should be. The media is gonna blow this out of proportion. I swear to Christ if this ****er gets off again because his defense team is able to discredit the filmmakers because of this bullshit, I'm gonna be livid.

Amnorix · 03-18-2015, 09:29 AM

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I'm a little concerned that this is going to end up being a bigger deal than it should be. The media is gonna blow this out of proportion. I swear to Christ if this ****er gets off again because his defense team is able to discredit the filmmakers because of this bullshit, I'm gonna be livid.

Honestly, this seems more than likely to happen.

As far as I know, they have no murder weapon, no way to pin Durst to even being in Los Angeles on the day of the crime, no witnesses, no forensic evidence (other than the letter), and a somewhat mixed motive story.

Basically, their side is that Durst whacked her to avoid having her squeal about him killing his wife. His side will be (1) they were good friends going back like 25+ years, and (2) why would he suddenly be afraid that she would flip on him, when she was such a good mouthpiece for him when his wife disappeared?

The TV show hinted that she was blackmailing him. The answer to that is beyond easy -- this guy has more money than God and didn't even care about it all. He'd given her money before, and no doubt would again, because money meant literally nothing to him.

That leaves basically the letter, which definitely looks bad, and the confession, which may or may not be suppressed.

Let's just say it's FAR from an air-tight case. Like the exact opposite of one really. And the ****er will have the best lawyers. Again...

Amnorix · 03-18-2015, 09:30 AM

Watching the Jinx now. I've kept my wife from learning anything about Durst. We started watching it last night, after the news broke, and am now four episodes in. Should finish tonight.

She is dying with curiosity, but agreed not to read about him online etc. until we get through it.

Red Brooklyn · 03-18-2015, 09:38 AM

It's definitely happening.

"The transfer came after a court hearing Tuesday morning. After that hearing, Durst's attorney, Dick DeGuerin, proclaimed his client's innocence.

DeGuerin said the HBO series was being unfairly used to prosecute him. "The warrant that was issued in California was issued because of a television show and not because of facts," he said."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-co...cility-n325586

Red Brooklyn · 03-18-2015, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Honestly, this seems more than likely to happen.

As far as I know, they have no murder weapon, no way to pin Durst to even being in Los Angeles on the day of the crime, no witnesses, no forensic evidence (other than the letter), and a somewhat mixed motive story.

Basically, their side is that Durst whacked her to avoid having her squeal about him killing his wife. His side will be (1) they were good friends going back like 25+ years, and (2) why would he suddenly be afraid that she would flip on him, when she was such a good mouthpiece for him when his wife disappeared?

The TV show hinted that she was blackmailing him. The answer to that is beyond easy -- this guy has more money than God and didn't even care about it all. He'd given her money before, and no doubt would again, because money meant literally nothing to him.

That leaves basically the letter, which definitely looks bad, and the confession, which may or may not be suppressed.

Let's just say it's FAR from an air-tight case. Like the exact opposite of one really. And the ****er will have the best lawyers. Again...

Of course. Good points all around. Completely agree. But the police have said they've been gathering new evidence, part of which was presented in the HBO series. So maybe they've got something more? I don't know. I just have a strong feeling this guy's gonna get away with this again. And it just sucks. Even if that's the system we have set up. It sucks.

BigRock · 03-18-2015, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

As far as I know, they have no murder weapon, no way to pin Durst to even being in Los Angeles on the day of the crime, no witnesses, no forensic evidence (other than the letter), and a somewhat mixed motive story.

If they can prove he wrote the letter, that will put him in LA. They know when and where it was mailed.

ChiliConCarnage · 03-18-2015, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Red Brooklyn

Of course. Good points all around. Completely agree. But the police have said they've been gathering new evidence, part of which was presented in the HBO series. So maybe they've got something more? I don't know. I just have a strong feeling this guy's gonna get away with this again. And it just sucks. Even if that's the system we have set up. It sucks.

On some level he's likely to get away with it again because I doubt he really knew he did those things. Only waking up/coming to and realizing he was screwed and bailing himself out.

Long story short, it'd be a shock if he didn't end up with a lifetime treatment plan at some facility. Rich people job the system every day but he seemed like a legit DPD type guy

**SAUTO** · 03-20-2015, 08:14 AM

he's going for the multiple personality defense. been setting it up the whole time.

Guaranteed.

03-14-2015, 04:17 AM
Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $6838598	Jinx on HBO Is anyone watching this? Completely under the radar. Then a few people were hyping by word of mouth. Only a couple episodes in, but holy schnikes. Super rich [I'm talking owning Manhattan skyscrapers rich, nearly billions in the '70s rich] dude slumming, killing people, dismembering them and tossing them in the ocean. And no one was talking about this??? This decades after his stunning wife disappears without a trace back in '82. Then when he says unprovoked of his own volition 'I was complicit in her non-existence any more?' Wow. Looks like there's more to the story because they are interviewing him first person, but it's off to a roaring start. Some compared it to True Detective and the podcast Serial. According to him, his father took him TO THE WINDOW to watch his mother jump off the roof when he was like 7. Truly it's like finding out that American Horror Story is a documentary. Really destroys your faith in humanity. And for Sopranos fans, phone records place him in the Pine Barrens days after she disappeared. Most shocking story I've witnessed since Donald Sterling broke. Wow!! And my GOD, the blinking that this guys does in his interviews. Creepiest thing since the series on The Iceman with his dead ***ing stare Last edited by Baby Lee; 03-14-2015 at 05:45 AM..*
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03-17-2015, 07:09 PM	#31
NewChief In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Fayetteville, AR Casino cash: $9630204	Went through 3 of them last night. Maybe it's because I already know the end of the story, but it's just sort of... eh... so far. __________________ In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican. - H. L. Mencken
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03-18-2015, 07:58 AM	#32
NewChief In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Fayetteville, AR Casino cash: $9630204	So the last two episodes certainly made this worth watching, though the fact that I already knew the outcome hurt it somewhat. Pretty incredible that these filmmakers broke this story while shooting a long form documentary. When Susan Berman's "son" finds the letter and realizes Durst's guilt... that's good stuff. Then when they're preparing to confront Durst and finally do it. Riveting. The rest of it felt pretty much like a Dateline or 20/20 It actually kind of reminds me of Mistaken for Strangers, the documentary about the National which really becomes interesting when it becomes "meta" and becomes about the making of the documentary itself vs. the actual subject of the documentary. There's something riveting about a documentary, then at a certain point having that shift to where the curtain gets peeled back and you're seeing the documentary get made. __________________ In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican. - H. L. Mencken
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03-18-2015, 09:30 AM	#40
Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	Watching the Jinx now. I've kept my wife from learning anything about Durst. We started watching it last night, after the news broke, and am now four episodes in. Should finish tonight. She is dying with curiosity, but agreed not to read about him online etc. until we get through it. __________________ "I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington
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03-18-2015, 09:38 AM	#41
Red Brooklyn Veteran Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY Casino cash: $8071398	It's definitely happening. "The transfer came after a court hearing Tuesday morning. After that hearing, Durst's attorney, Dick DeGuerin, proclaimed his client's innocence. DeGuerin said the HBO series was being unfairly used to prosecute him. "The warrant that was issued in California was issued because of a television show and not because of facts," he said." http://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-co...cility-n325586 Last edited by Red Brooklyn; 03-18-2015 at 09:43 AM..
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03-20-2015, 08:14 AM	#45
SAUTO Shit Join Date: Jun 2008 Casino cash: $10039067	he's going for the multiple personality defense. been setting it up the whole time. Guaranteed.
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