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Old 03-22-2010, 04:42 PM   #5521
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I've been a huge fan of Edge's since he was in the tag team a long time ago, but I don't think this face run is working. Maybe it needs more time or maybe Edge is just a naturally good heel, but I'm not a huge fan of the face turn so far. As for the Jericho-Edge match, I think it could be a classic.
I think it's the same problem Orton's having. It's like they're both trying to straddle the heel/face line the same way Austin did, and it's not quite working for both of them. Although I think it's for different reasons. I don't think Orton wants to be a face, and I think he's doing everything he can to sabotage it. And the writers have inadvertently helped him. I think a year or 6 months ago he'd have been the top face in WWE if they'd turned him, but now I think people have been confused (whether to boo or cheer) to the point that they've started not to care.

Whereas, with Edge, I think they've done a real poor job with execution. The whole "spear, spear" thing is kind of dick-ish to me and as you mentioned he has this natural heel charisma. But I guess somebody in the feud has to be a face, and he makes a little more sense than Jericho.

There really are some great heels in WWE right now.
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Old 03-22-2010, 04:55 PM   #5522
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Does Dixie Carter still know Samoa Joe was kidnapped by Ninjas? have they abandon the storyline like everything else? This just one example why I keep watch tna just cause of the stupid shit they put out day after day the abyss & hogan angle might be the biggest head scratcher of a storyline in years ... watch when hogan signs Randy Savage to a contract when are gonna be seeing a main event of Black Machismo vs Macho Man
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:02 PM   #5523
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I think it's the same problem Orton's having. It's like they're both trying to straddle the heel/face line the same way Austin did, and it's not quite working for both of them. Although I think it's for different reasons. I don't think Orton wants to be a face, and I think he's doing everything he can to sabotage it. And the writers have inadvertently helped him. I think a year or 6 months ago he'd have been the top face in WWE if they'd turned him, but now I think people have been confused (whether to boo or cheer) to the point that they've started not to care.

Whereas, with Edge, I think they've done a real poor job with execution. The whole "spear, spear" thing is kind of dick-ish to me and as you mentioned he has this natural heel charisma. But I guess somebody in the feud has to be a face, and he makes a little more sense than Jericho.

There really are some great heels in WWE right now.
The problem is you can't force the ****ing crowd to hate or like somebody. They've been trying to push Cena forever as the top likable guy and people still boo the shit out of him. Just like they couldn't force people to stop popping for Stone Cold.

The last time I saw a wrestler command the crowd on cue was The Rock vs. Hogan. It was amazing how the crowds reaction towards The Rock would change on the fly during the match.

If they didn't book heels like total pussies, this generation of wrestling would push the attitude era. They've done a very good job building up the heels, only to run them through the buzz-saw's BRUSF YO MOUF WIT KOGATE and DX.

People like Randy Orton just don't have that face look.
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:03 PM   #5524
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Cena's over just not with people our age.
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:05 PM   #5525
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Cena's over just not with people our age.
He is my fav wrestler when he is injured and gone
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:06 PM   #5526
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and that's what makes him different from others like Austin and Hogan and they've failed because they tried hard to make him this generations Hogan/Stone Cold.

They really need to make him a heel again for awhile, but he pushes a lot of merchandise to do it.
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:08 PM   #5527
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They won't turn Cena because he still makes them a lot of money, that's the end of that debate.
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:16 PM   #5528
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They won't turn Cena because he still makes them a lot of money, that's the end of that debate.
pretty much

Still think Taker is going to win at WM again this year. No reason to waste a mega push they could give to a mid-carder on HBK. Retirement=few months off to rest after WM.

With a relatively select memory train, they can wheel him out again around Summerslam and everyone would have forgotten about the "retirement" clause by then. I guess Undertaker loses next WM and retires officially.

HHH seems to like Shameus and may have no problem pushing him over at WM. Jericho retains, CENA WINZ BAH GAWD CENA WINZ, Brett Hart wins in a sloppy match that should of never happened, Morrison/R-Truth win, Mysterio wins, Drew McIntyre wins MiTB.
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They've been going for a couple of years now with the "half boo me, half cheer me" thing with Cena, rather than trying to push him down everybody's throat. Like him or hate him, he's a star, and there's no way to argue that at this point. He's bigger than HHH (talk about a guy they push relentlessly...) or HBK or Undertaker or anybody else in either company. And they've managed that despite the fact that nobody male and over the age of 12 can stand him.
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:19 PM   #5530
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They've only gone with that method on Cena because they couldn't book him as the most likable dude ever with people chanting "**** you cena" and "you can't wrestle" in the background.

They tried forever to outright ignore it or pipe in cheers.

E: Still lol'ing over the fact they slashed the hell out of the price on Bischoffs book after he bragged over the check he received from his cut of the sales.

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Old 03-22-2010, 07:05 PM   #5531
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Holy shit. Am I stoned, or did I just see impact begin with Eric Bischoff playing guitar and then challenging Jeff Jarret to play?

I don't think I need to say anything more about this show.
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Jeff Jarrett is reverting back to his Double J character where is BG James to be the Roadie?
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Old 03-22-2010, 07:35 PM   #5533
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They just showed the shit from the main event of the TNA PPV last night, and that has to be about the most reeruned ****ing shit I've ever seen.
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Old 03-22-2010, 07:37 PM   #5534
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Old 03-22-2010, 07:41 PM   #5535
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Flair in a wheelchair is just sad.
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