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Old 02-20-2013, 07:58 AM   #1
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I'm not even FOR this, really. I'd say I think trading a pick for Foles would be plan B as long as they draft a QB at the top of the 2nd to develop/compete.

I'd still prefer to draft Geno at #1.
Id like to draft Geno and still trade for Foles or another QB.

But ill trust whatever decision these guys make....at least initially.
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:59 AM   #2
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Sounds like you're in full "gotta get these guys a championship" desperation mode.

Yep, that's how you end up with STEVE BONO.
But in another thread you not only want to trade a high draft pick but also sign a malcontent to a huge deal. How is that different?
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:02 AM   #3
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But in another thread you not only want to trade a high draft pick but also sign a malcontent to a huge deal. How is that different?
Percy Havin is one of the most dangerous players in the NFL. He was a legit MVP candidate before getting hurt last year.

A guy that can score each and every time he touches the ball is ABSOLUTELY different.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:04 AM   #4
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Percy Havin is one of the most dangerous players in the NFL. He was a legit MVP candidate before getting hurt last year.

A guy that can score each and every time he touches the ball is ABSOLUTELY different.
Mvp candidate? Youve lost your damn mind.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:07 AM   #5
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Mvp candidate? Youve lost your damn mind.
I'm not the only person that said it. Dane isn't gonna love you no matter how much you do this.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:11 AM   #6
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I'm not the only person that said it. Dane isn't gonna love you no matter how much you do this.
You werent the only person who said Stanzi was going to be a player in this league either.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:12 AM   #7
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You werent the only person who said Stanzi was going to be a player in this league either.


It's a good thing I'm not petty and pathetic enough to keep track of your predictions.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:17 AM   #8
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It's a good thing I'm not petty and pathetic enough to keep track of your predictions.
Weve all been wrong in the past its whatever. The fact you think Harvin was an actual MVP candidate is a head scratcher to me unless you are talking about a list of 50.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:30 AM   #9
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Weve all been wrong in the past its whatever. The fact you think Harvin was an actual MVP candidate is a head scratcher to me unless you are talking about a list of 50.
He was in the conversation before his injury. Lots of people were talking about it.
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Old 02-20-2013, 10:20 AM   #10
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Weve all been wrong in the past its whatever. The fact you think Harvin was an actual MVP candidate is a head scratcher to me unless you are talking about a list of 50.
He was, actually. This was just the first thing I found at the 1/4 pole:

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/po...d-the-mvp-race

and another:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...in-on-the-rise

Right before he was injured, he was on a bunch of short-lists for the MVP. He had just had a run of weeks where he just kept making huge plays to swing the lead and he was getting a lot of MVP talk. AP hadn't had his massive streak yet (which started after Harvin went down) and the Broncos were just building momentum.

You forget that was at about week 8; a lot of things changed over the last 1/2 of the season. But he's absolutely right - Harvin was getting plenty of discussion for the first half MVP. He wasn't the top candidate, but he we certainly a top 10 guy.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:26 AM   #11
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There's also this little thought:

People keep saying Andy Reid drafted Foles and that's the connection.

According to what some of the Eagles' fans posted here, Andy DIDN'T draft Foles. In fact, he didn't draft ANYBODY the last couple of years.

That's why Reid is in KC and Howie Roseman is still in Philly. Roseman wrested control of personnel from Reid a couple of years ago with the backing of Jeff Lurie and Lurie has been tickled pink with the last couple of drafts.

There's EVERY reason to believe that Roseman was the reason they drafted Foles. It's entirely possible Reid doesn't like him at all.
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There's also this little thought:

People keep saying Andy Reid drafted Foles and that's the connection.

According to what some of the Eagles' fans posted here, Andy DIDN'T draft Foles. In fact, he didn't draft ANYBODY the last couple of years.

That's why Reid is in KC and Howie Roseman is still in Philly. Roseman wrested control of personnel from Reid a couple of years ago with the backing of Jeff Lurie and Lurie has been tickled pink with the last couple of drafts.

There's EVERY reason to believe that Roseman was the reason they drafted Foles. It's entirely possible Reid doesn't like him at all.
Yeah...we've only heard from the Chiefs about not picking a QB #1.

And somehow that's kind of grown to also mean they're trading for Foles, just because of media speculation.

Unless I missed something there's been nothing about the Chiefs wanting Foles.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:08 AM   #13
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Unless I missed something there's been nothing about the Chiefs wanting Foles.
You haven't missed anything.

In fact, you haven't missed anything on the Alex Smith front either. Outside of Trent Dilfer's "my friend Alex Smith would be a good fit in KC because Andy Reid likes him" crap, there isn't an OUNCE of substance to those rumors.
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There's also this little thought:

People keep saying Andy Reid drafted Foles and that's the connection.

According to what some of the Eagles' fans posted here, Andy DIDN'T draft Foles. In fact, he didn't draft ANYBODY the last couple of years.

That's why Reid is in KC and Howie Roseman is still in Philly. Roseman wrested control of personnel from Reid a couple of years ago with the backing of Jeff Lurie and Lurie has been tickled pink with the last couple of drafts.

There's EVERY reason to believe that Roseman was the reason they drafted Foles. It's entirely possible Reid doesn't like him at all.
Personally I think the whole Foles to KC thing has always been a crock of shit.

The Chiefs will draft a QB #1.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:28 AM   #15
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My problem with Alex Smith is this...
His coach (who happens to be pretty good), decided he wasn't good enough, after a season and a half of decent play, and, for all intents and purposes, benched him.

As for Foles (he's not going anywhere, btw), if he were to be traded, once again you've got a guy who was deemed not good enough.
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