Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 54

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

DJ's left nut · 10-18-2018, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

amazing how many of you seem to think he's taking your money...

Not as amazing as your ability to type without being able to actually read.

I'm impressed, really. I have no idea how you've managed to pull it off, but you know what they say about 1,000 monkeys and 1000 typewriters and what not...

Beef Supreme · 10-18-2018, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

amazing how many of you seem to think he's taking your money...

Well, technically, he is. I mean, Clark isn't paying him out of his trust fund. The money these guys make is ultimately coming from the fans.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-18-2018, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I do ever so love your steadfast insistence on disparaging everyone who deigns besmirch the good name of a guy who hasn't done shit for this team in 14 months.

You're right, we're all just jealous fatasses who've never experienced pain.

Jesus you're simple. Oh wait, that's not right. You're simply enlightened.

Nice take, Soren.

Bewbies · 10-18-2018, 12:31 PM

I can’t wait to read this thread once he comes back.

**The Franchise** · 10-18-2018, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

I can’t wait to read this thread once he comes back.

And if he doesn't?

Pitt Gorilla · 10-18-2018, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I do ever so love your steadfast insistence on disparaging everyone who deigns besmirch the good name of a guy who hasn't done shit for this team in 14 months.

You're right, we're all just jealous fatasses who've never experienced pain.

Jesus you're simple. Oh wait, that's not right. You're simply enlightened.

Nice take, Soren.

Pitt Gorilla · 10-18-2018, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

I can’t wait to read this thread once he comes back.

When will that be?

MIAdragon · 10-18-2018, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies

I can’t wait to read this thread once he comes back.

Does that erase all the cheerleading time?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-18-2018, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bewbies

I can’t wait to read this thread once he comes back.

And I can't wait to be wrong should he do so. This isn't Alex Smith we're talking about, it's a player that makes the entire defense and team better by being in the game.

stevieray · 10-18-2018, 12:49 PM

I'm not wasting another keystroke on this guy till he's on the field of play.

Imon Yourside · 10-18-2018, 12:51 PM

One thing is for sure he won't be riding in on a white horse once he's ready to play.

Hammock Parties · 10-18-2018, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

One thing is for sure he won't be riding in on a white horse once he's ready to play.

he IS the white horse

we're going to ride him into the afc championship game

Imon Yourside · 10-18-2018, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

he IS the white horse

we're going to ride him into the afc championship game

I'll take that bad horse jokes aside i'm ready for day to day to be he's hour to hour.

Marcellus · 10-18-2018, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

I do ever so love your steadfast insistence on disparaging everyone who deigns besmirch the good name of a guy who hasn't done shit for this team in 14 months.

You're right, we're all just jealous fatasses who've never experienced pain.

Jesus you're simple. Oh wait, that's not right. You're simply enlightened.

Nice take, Soren.

Quote:

I mean, who didn't have a coach growing up who said something along the lines of "are you hurt, or are you injured?"

We knew damn sure what he meant.

Is Eric Berry hurt or is he injured? I'm not sure the needle is pushed nearly as far towards 'injured' as some will claim.

Who is the one who claims they know whats really going on based on "When I was a kid growing up playing football."

Its not me.

Ironic you would accuse me of acting "enlightened".

nicksdad · 10-18-2018, 01:00 PM

sorry for the hijack but i am a 60 year old guy, 50 year chiefs fan, coming out for the effin' flexed game this weekend. any reccs for a steak meal, bbq meal and/or tailgating options? tx and sorry again.

09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1786899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level. Last edited by DaFace; 09-29-2018 at 04:32 PM..
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