Cassel Chronicles: The Conclusion

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by mikey23545

That's cute, the way you're pretending to have a dialogue with yourself, GoSuck...You and Raised on Rats must surely be two different people....

Oh look; it's Mikey! Yay!

Well, it was fun Mr. Douche and Run; see ya' 300 posts from now. Buh-Bye!

[BossChief]

I rarely say this but never fail to give credit where it is due.

Good read!

A couple things from the Boss:

Cassel isnt bad at throwing passes over 30 yards, he was TERRIBLE at it...3-26 over the course of the year.

Cassel was instructed to take sacks rather than risk turnovers.

Collinsworth said many times that Cassels problem early on and till about week 11 or 12 was that if his first two reads were covered, he took his eyes off his recievers and focused them on the passrush. Once he overcame that, he really excelled. Hopefully he continues to progress and doesnt fall back on bad habits for us when players arent routinely open as was the case in NE.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Cassel isnt bad at throwing passes over 30 yards, he was TERRIBLE at it...3-26 over the course of the year.

His receivers weren't great at catching them. I saw Moss drop at LEAST two passes over 30 yards. Gaffney dropped one.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

His receivers weren't great at catching them. I saw Moss drop at LEAST two passes over 30 yards. Gaffney dropped one.

you talking the Moss that broke the nfl record for td receptions the year before?

Cassel overthrew many more passes to Moss than he actually dropped.

After ten or so games, he got much better at timing with his recievers and I look for it to take at least 6 or seven before he does here as well. His deep ball will take more time.

I wish Gaffney hadnt signed with Denver so quick, he would have been a good addition we surely would have added.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BossChief

you talking the Moss that broke the nfl record for td receptions the year before?
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Yes, I am.

And Moss dropped AT LEAST three touchdown passes last year.

[BossChief]

I rarely say this but never fail to give credit where it is due.

Good read!

A couple things from the Boss:

Cassel isnt bad at throwing passes over 30 yards, he was TERRIBLE at it...3-26 over the course of the year.

Cassel was instructed to take sacks rather than risk turnovers.

Collinsworth said many times that Cassels problem early on and till about week 11 or 12 was that if his first two reads were covered, he took his eyes off his recievers and focused them on the passrush. Once he overcame that, he really excelled. Hopefully he continues to progress and doesnt fall back on bad habits for us when players arent routinely open as was the case in NE.

I look for Cassel to start kinda slow, but show mental toughness well enough to pull out of it and have some great games in the second half of the year.

[Mecca]

Even if you add those in it's still a very poor number, he doesn't have a bad deep because of a bad arm, his arm is above average. He's just not accurate with his throws down the field, some of them looked like he just threw to a wide open area of field where no one really had any chance of catching it on either team.

His issues are things that can be worked upon, as of now those are his most pressing issues he needs to improve on.

Also that gif is a bad example because the way a guy moves when he's moving to throw and moving to run aren't the same. Matt Cassel is athletic when he tucks and runs like that he can move pretty well. Most guys trot when they move to throw because no one wants to throw while running at full speed because it jacks with your motion.

If Cassel can vastly improve his play from center while showing better deep ball accuracy that would be a huge huge improvement to his game. His middle of the field stuff you would think would come with time and playing more.

I expect more picks because I don't think the Chiefs are going to tell him if your first read isn't open take the sack, but that goes with the process. I want to see fast reads and progressions and the ball coming out at a good rate.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Mecca

I expect more picks because I don't think the Chiefs are going to tell him if your first read isn't open take the sack

What the hell.

Cassel was a hell of a lot more than a one-read quarterback last year.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

What the hell.

Cassel was a hell of a lot more than a one-read quarterback last year.

He was only more than 1 read when he was in the shotgun...late in the year he was exclusively in the shotgun because of how wide of a difference he is from that to under center.

But it was also obvious when watching them play that was told at some point not to take huge chances and to take a sack or tuck it and run instead of turning it over.

I think his sack number from last year is a little overblown because he took some sacks instead of taking a risk numerous times.

I think he'll get sacked less and probably not hold the ball as long but end up throwing more picks because of the different situation and team.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Mecca

He was only more than 1 read when he was in the shotgun...

Ridiculous.

You're throwing out garbage, Mecca. I saw Cassel make play action fakes (you know, after taking a snap from center?) and look at more than one receiver.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

Ridiculous.

You're throwing out garbage, Mecca. I saw Cassel make play action fakes (you know, after taking a snap from center?) and look at more than one receiver.

Would you like to look at how wide his shotgun to center splits are and how later in the year when everyone says he got better he became a nearly exclusively shotgun passing QB?

We can talk all of his positives but we have to talk negatives too. He has many things to work on to be what people want him to be.

[Pioli Zombie]

That sounds like a bullshit statistic. I'm curious, what was Peyton Mannings over 30 yards ratio? I doubt there are too many qbs with a good one.

Its like the "record vs playoff teams". Like when you hear "this guy sucks. In his career he wins 80 percent against team with losing records but only 46 against playoff teams". Duh. No shit.
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[Mecca]

It's not even so much the stat, if you've watched him play or talk to people that have on a consistent basis his deep ball is the first thing that is brought up as something he doesn't do well.

He's just not accurate with it at all, he hit a few and missed badly with alot. No one respects your deep ball if when you throw it you miss by a huge degree.

[Pioli Zombie]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It's not even so much the stat, if you've watched him play or talk to people that have on a consistent basis his deep ball is the first thing that is brought up as something he doesn't do well.

He's just not accurate with it at all, he hit a few and missed badly with alot. No one respects your deep ball if when you throw it you miss by a huge degree.

I watched consistantly and by the end of the season he was throwing them fine. Matt Cassel is hardly the thing Chiefs fans need to worry about.
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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It's not even so much the stat, if you've watched him play or talk to people that have on a consistent basis his deep ball is the first thing that is brought up as something he doesn't do well.

He's just not accurate with it at all, he hit a few and missed badly with alot. No one respects your deep ball if when you throw it you miss by a huge degree.

Not to be overly obvious, but it's a nice threat to have. Especially when the modern air-game so dominantly 30 yards or less per-pass distance on average.