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Old 05-13-2014, 03:53 PM   #1
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Still think Moeaki had the goods to be a solid player in the league. Kid just can't stay healthy.
Absolutely. I put him in the Sylvester Morris and Percy Snow category of busts, which is a far kinder place to be rather than the Trezelle Jenkins and Ryan Sims category.
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Old 05-13-2014, 03:54 PM   #2
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Absolutely. I put him in the Sylvester Morris and Percy Snow category of busts, which is a far kinder place to be rather than the Trezelle Jenkins and Ryan Sims category.
Where would you put Vanover? Just curious. The weed bust category?
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Old 05-13-2014, 04:02 PM   #3
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Absolutely. I put him in the Sylvester Morris and Percy Snow category of busts, which is a far kinder place to be rather than the Trezelle Jenkins and Ryan Sims category.
I think we need to add a third category for the Victory Riley/John Tait/Larry Johnson/Glenn Dorsey/Tyson Jackson level of guys who managed to produce, but never quite to the level of their selection.

Probably harsh, but to me, first rounders who end up playing for other teams before they're 30 are just another kind of draft failure.
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Old 05-13-2014, 04:07 PM   #4
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I think we need to add a third category for the Victory Riley/John Tait/Larry Johnson/Glenn Dorsey/Tyson Jackson level of guys who managed to produce, but never quite to the level of their selection.

Probably harsh, but to me, first rounders who end up playing for other teams before they're 30 are just another kind of draft failure.
I don't think you can possibly label LJ as a bust. Sure, he's one of the most despised athletes to ever play for the Chiefs, but for two straight years he was better than anyone at his position in the world. He put up historical numbers in some categories both for the team and the league. I think it's easy to dismiss what he did because we don't like him, but if even Jamaal had a year like one of those carrying the ball we'd shit a brick. Look at his numbers...they are borderline shocking.
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Old 05-13-2014, 04:10 PM   #5
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I don't think you can possibly label LJ as a bust. Sure, he's one of the most despised athletes to ever play for the Chiefs, but for three straight years he was better than anyone at his position in the world. He put up historical numbers in some categories both for the team and the league. I think it's easy to dismiss what he did because we don't like him, but if even Jamaal had a year like one of those carrying the ball we'd shit a brick. Look at his numbers...they are borderline shocking.
I never had a problem with LJ, but I think longevity is really a key factor when it comes to the success/failure of high pick. That's why you don't generally draft running backs in the 1st round.
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Old 05-13-2014, 04:12 PM   #6
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I never had a problem with LJ, but I think longevity is really a key factor when it comes to the success/failure of high pick. That's why you don't generally draft running backs in the 1st round.
It wasn't that long ago that three went in the top five picks.
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It wasn't that long ago that three went in the top five picks.
It is funny how trends dominate the draft, for sure.
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It wasn't that long ago that three went in the top five picks.
The Ronnie Brown, Cedric Benson, Cadillac Williams draft?

That worked out well...



Holy shit. That was almost a decade ago.
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The Ronnie Brown, Cedric Benson, Cadillac Williams draft?

That worked out well...



Holy shit. That was almost a decade ago.
Yep. We are old as shit.
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The Ronnie Brown, Cedric Benson, Cadillac Williams draft?

That worked out well...



Holy shit. That was almost a decade ago.
That draft single handedly began the downward trend of RB prospect value.
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The Ronnie Brown, Cedric Benson, Cadillac Williams draft?

That worked out well...



Holy shit. That was almost a decade ago.

Benson was not in that draft.
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I think we need to add a third category for the Victory Riley/John Tait/Larry Johnson/Glenn Dorsey/Tyson Jackson level of guys who managed to produce, but never quite to the level of their selection.

Probably harsh, but to me, first rounders who end up playing for other teams before they're 30 are just another kind of draft failure.
I consider that management failure.

Man... Can you imagine if Houston had held onto Mario Williams?
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