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Old 02-18-2014, 10:18 PM  
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Date: 2/18/2014 16:48

This is an Amber Alert, the Springfield Missouri Police Department has issued an Amber Alert that occured at 3247 west Lombard at 4:48 pm on 02/18/14. Abducted was Hailey Owens a white female 10 years old. The suspect vehicle is a gold 2008 Ford Ranger Missouri registration 1YF454. The vehicle was last seen southbound on Scenic from Grand in Springfield, Missouri. The suspect is a white male, no further description is available. The victim, Hailey M. Owens is a white female 10 years old, 5 foot 2 inches tall, weighing 90 pounds with long brown hair, brown eyes and pierced ears. Owens was last seen wearing blue jean shorts and purple sandals.. . Please Contact Springfield Police Department at 417-864-1810


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Old 02-20-2014, 11:42 AM   #271
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Yeah the Police Chief in his 1st news conference said there state and fed guidelines they must meet before can issue the alert. They met those guidelines a little before 7 pm and alerts were sent out.
You'd think a kid getting grabbed off the street would be the only guideline they needed. If it's going to take that long to meet the criteria for an alert then they may as well do away with the system entirely. That's ****ing absurd.
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Old 02-20-2014, 12:03 PM   #272
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Old 02-20-2014, 12:06 PM   #273
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Old 02-20-2014, 12:07 PM   #274
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You'd think a kid getting grabbed off the street would be the only guideline they needed. If it's going to take that long to meet the criteria for an alert then they may as well do away with the system entirely. That's ****ing absurd.
I dont know and he didnt go into details.
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Old 02-20-2014, 12:09 PM   #275
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You'd think a kid getting grabbed off the street would be the only guideline they needed. If it's going to take that long to meet the criteria for an alert then they may as well do away with the system entirely. That's ****ing absurd.
You are aware, despite the tragic ending, that the abductor was captured within 4 hours with this system being a substantial reason why?
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Old 02-20-2014, 12:10 PM   #276
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You are aware, despite the tragic ending, that the abductor was captured within 4 hours with this system being a substantial reason why?
I don't think 4 hours is accurate but the Amber Alert definitely helped...
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You are aware, despite the tragic ending, that the abductor was captured within 4 hours with this system being a substantial reason why?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the point of the system is to protect the child, not necessarily catch the perp. Time is of the the essence and waiting two damn hours when there were witnesses who saw the guy grab the girl off the street is unacceptable.
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I don't think 4 hours is accurate but the Amber Alert definitely helped...
I guess it wouldn't be if it was issued in the morning. My point is as you said, it definitely helped.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the point of the system is to protect the child, not necessarily catch the perp. Time is of the the essence and waiting two damn hours when there were witnesses who saw the guy grab the girl off the street is unacceptable.
I get what you are saying and I would give everything if the system assisted in the recovery of this little girl safe and sound, however the reality is that it does sometimes and it does not in others. That being said, capturing the perp keeps him off the street and unable to do it again which saves countless other lives.
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I get what you are saying and I would give everything if the system assisted in the recovery of this little girl safe and sound, however the reality is that it does sometimes and it does not in others. That being said, capturing the perp keeps him off the street and unable to do it again which saves countless other lives.
Well if it is going to take two hours to get the alerts out then we can all look forward to more murdered children. I can't think of one reason why the alert shouldn't have been issued as soon at the call came in. We're talking about a matter of life or death here.
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I get what you are saying and I would give everything if the system assisted in the recovery of this little girl safe and sound, however the reality is that it does sometimes and it does not in others. That being said, capturing the perp keeps him off the street and unable to do it again which saves countless other lives.
Details of the case are already being leaked.

I wouldn't be shocked if others claimed abuse after his face is out there and he's on trial...
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Well if it is going to take two hours to get the alerts out then we can all look forward to more murdered children. I can't think of one reason why the alert shouldn't have been issued as soon at the call came in. We're talking about a matter of life or death here.
I think some investigation would have to be done to ensure that it is not used too frequently. According for the Amber Alert to be issued the criteria to be met is sufficient identification, witnesses and thought of imminent danger. I would suspect that the hold up had more to do with identification of the child, but I'm not certain.

Point is the system works, but like anything else, it is not perfect nor can ever be.
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Details of the case are already being leaked.

I wouldn't be shocked if others claimed abuse after his face is out there and he's on trial...
I hope the sorry sack of shit gets every ounce of pain that's coming to him.
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I hope the sorry sack of shit gets every ounce of pain that's coming to him.
I'd like to say I could help but I'm sure he won't stay in-state...
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