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Old 02-27-2013, 10:59 AM  
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Alex Smith Traded to Chiefs

Well, it looks like the deal is done.



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Old 03-07-2013, 08:31 PM   #4021
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FYI, Argo, if that's even your real name, no Andy Reid QB has ever thrown for 4300 yards. McNabb had ONE season of 27+ TD.

GOOD LUCK DUMBASS.
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Old 03-07-2013, 08:33 PM   #4022
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FYI, Argo, if that's even your real name, no Andy Reid QB has ever thrown for 4300 yards. McNabb had ONE season of 27+ TD.

GOOD LUCK DUMBASS.
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Old 03-07-2013, 08:33 PM   #4023
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Old 03-07-2013, 08:33 PM   #4024
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Your dumbass is the opposite end of GoChiefs. You are on whatever bandwagon the majority isn't and you look like a ****ing idiot.
Not true.I hated losing Carr. I hate Cassel. I hate Pioli. I love the Andy Reid hire. I was for Albert staying. I was for Bowe staying. I was for Colquitt staying.

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Old 03-07-2013, 08:33 PM   #4025
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I wouldn't worry about your bet GC. Alex will be lucky to play beyond 8 games this season.
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Old 03-07-2013, 08:34 PM   #4026
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Hey man you can also win if he throws for 4,300 yards! I'm screwed!
So Alex would essentially have to pull out of his ass the equivalent of 4 more excellent games or 6 games of about what he usually averages. So the only way you will lose this bet is if between now and then, the NFL changes its schedule to 22 games.
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Old 03-07-2013, 08:35 PM   #4027
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Old 03-07-2013, 08:36 PM   #4028
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Old 03-07-2013, 08:36 PM   #4029
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W/L Record when opposing teams score 24 or more?

I, too, am tired of that stat. The fact is, most quarterbacks lose facing those odds.

Aaron Rodgers - 12-23
Matt Stafford - 7-22
Eli Manning - 18-44
Ben Roethlisberger - 7 - 25

Obviously, there are guys that are going to have better numbers if they played on teams that lit the scoreboard up. Tom Brady has something like a 31-31 record in this column because he's had both good defenses and great offenses. Some teams rely on good defense and don't build their teams to win by outscoring the opponent in a shootout. Alex Smith has played on one of those teams for his entire career. Hell, look at Eli's numbers. That's a HORRIBLE stat line...no one would bitch if we brought him in. I'm not saying that Alex Smith is half of what Eli Manning is, but I'm pointing out that this stat is more of a reflection of the way that the team is built, rather than the quarterback.
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Tom Brady...............30 wins/ 28 losses in 58 games = 52%
Joe Flacco................10 wins/12 losses in 22 games = 46%
Matt Ryan................11 wins/17 losses in 28 games = 39%
Peyton Manning........35 wins/ 54 losses in 89 games = 39%
Aaron Rodgers..........11 wins/19 losses in 30 games = 37%
Drew Brees..............27 wins/ 51 losses in 78 games = 35%
Eli Manning, .............18 wins/44 losses in 62 games = 29%
Matthew Stafford........7 wins/ 21 losses in 28 games = 25%
Matt Schaub..............14 wins/43 losses in 57 games = 25%
Matt Cassel...............8 wins/26 losses in 34 games = 24%
Ben Roethilsberger........6 wins/21 losses in 27 games = 22%
Alex Smith..................2 wins/27 losses in 29 games = 7%

What this means to you is up to how much you think an elite QB impacts the team. All I know is, there is a hell of a difference between 7% and even 35% when you are fighting for a playoff berth or trying to navigate to the superbowl. All of those elite/elitish guys are in the 30's on up.

Brady, Manning, Brees and Rodgers are in the top 6, all cleary elite QBs. Flacco is nearly elite. Ryan, I didn't expect. So who knows?

All I know is, it is no secret it is very difficult to win when your Defense allows 24 points. That is why it is a bellweather. That's why they don't use 7 or 14 points as the dividing point. Because giving up 24 means you usually lose. So the key here is, what QBs shoulder their team and give you SOME chance to win when the Defense gives up 24 points.

All of this means exactly jack since it is a team sport, but it does seem indicate that some QBs can step up to generate points when needed and other QBs can't.

Just for fun, here is a how a classic HoFer fared -

Joe Montana...........21 wins/24 losses in 45 games = 46%

Hmm, maybe there is a little something to this metric.
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there needs to be a thread taking bets on who gets hurt first, Tony Moeaki or Alex Smith.

that's a tough one.
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Tom Brady...............30 wins/ 28 losses in 58 games = 52%
Joe Flacco................10 wins/12 losses in 22 games = 46%
Matt Ryan................11 wins/17 losses in 28 games = 39%
Peyton Manning........35 wins/ 54 losses in 89 games = 39%
Aaron Rodgers..........11 wins/19 losses in 30 games = 37%
Drew Brees..............27 wins/ 51 losses in 78 games = 35%
Eli Manning, .............18 wins/44 losses in 62 games = 29%
Matthew Stafford........7 wins/ 21 losses in 28 games = 25%
Matt Schaub..............14 wins/43 losses in 57 games = 25%
Matt Cassel...............8 wins/26 losses in 34 games = 24%
Ben Roethilsberger........6 wins/21 losses in 27 games = 22%
Alex Smith..................2 wins/27 losses in 29 games = 7%

What this means to you is up to how much you think an elite QB impacts the team. All I know is, there is a hell of a difference between 7% and even 35% when you are fighting for a playoff berth or trying to navigate to the superbowl. All of those elite/elitish guys are in the 30's on up.

Brady, Manning, Brees and Rodgers are in the top 6, all cleary elite QBs. Flacco is nearly elite. Ryan, I didn't expect. So who knows?

All I know is, it is no secret it is very difficult to win when your Defense allows 24 points. That is why it is a bellweather. That's why they don't use 7 or 14 points as the dividing point. Because giving up 24 means you usually lose. So the key here is, what QBs shoulder their team and give you SOME chance to win when the Defense gives up 24 points.

All of this means exactly jack since it is a team sport, but it does seem indicate that some QBs can step up to generate points when needed and other QBs can't.

Just for fun, here is a how a classic HoFer fared -

Joe Montana...........21 wins/24 losses in 45 games = 46%

Hmm, maybe there is a little something to this metric.

yea eat shit Alex Smith ballwashers
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Amazing how people CONTINUE to slam that statistic when it's the absolute truth.

Matt ****ing Cassel has more wins in that situation than Smith.

That's embarrassing.

There's no defense for being close to 0 in any stat in this league.
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there needs to be a thread taking bets on who gets hurt first, Tony Moeaki or Alex Smith.

that's a tough one.
Here's hoping they don't hurt each other
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Old 03-07-2013, 08:42 PM   #4034
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Tom Brady...............30 wins/ 28 losses in 58 games = 52%
Joe Flacco................10 wins/12 losses in 22 games = 46%
Matt Ryan................11 wins/17 losses in 28 games = 39%
Peyton Manning........35 wins/ 54 losses in 89 games = 39%
Aaron Rodgers..........11 wins/19 losses in 30 games = 37%
Drew Brees..............27 wins/ 51 losses in 78 games = 35%
Eli Manning, .............18 wins/44 losses in 62 games = 29%
Matthew Stafford........7 wins/ 21 losses in 28 games = 25%
Matt Schaub..............14 wins/43 losses in 57 games = 25%
Matt Cassel...............8 wins/26 losses in 34 games = 24%
Ben Roethilsberger........6 wins/21 losses in 27 games = 22%
Alex Smith..................2 wins/27 losses in 29 games = 7%

What this means to you is up to how much you think an elite QB impacts the team. All I know is, there is a hell of a difference between 7% and even 35% when you are fighting for a playoff berth or trying to navigate to the superbowl. All of those elite/elitish guys are in the 30's on up.

Brady, Manning, Brees and Rodgers are in the top 6, all cleary elite QBs. Flacco is nearly elite. Ryan, I didn't expect. So who knows?

All I know is, it is no secret it is very difficult to win when your Defense allows 24 points. That is why it is a bellweather. That's why they don't use 7 or 14 points as the dividing point. Because giving up 24 means you usually lose. So the key here is, what QBs shoulder their team and give you SOME chance to win when the Defense gives up 24 points.

All of this means exactly jack since it is a team sport, but it does seem indicate that some QBs can step up to generate points when needed and other QBs can't.

Just for fun, here is a how a classic HoFer fared -

Joe Montana...........21 wins/24 losses in 45 games = 46%

Hmm, maybe there is a little something to this metric.
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