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Old 11-12-2008, 06:29 AM  
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HBO greenlights A Game of Thrones pilot! (spoilers)

EDIT: Changed the original header to mark this as the thread where spoilers are allowed (but not necessarily recommended...). Created a new, spoiler-free thread for Ice and Fire virgins...


This is awesome...

Huge, Huge News

Nov. 11th, 2008 at 10:29 PM

HBO has given the production order.

They will be filming the pilot episode of A GAME OF THRONES.

It's just the pilot so far. They'll need to see that before they decide whether to proceed with a full season's episodes. So let's all hope the pilot will kick serious ass.

It should. David Benioff and Dan Weiss did a terrific job with the script. And yes, all of you can relax, it's very faithful. Dan and David will be the executive producers for the pilot and (we hope) the eventual series.

More details when I have 'em. The news is very fresh. HBO just issued their own press release, which should be up on their website soon, if it's not there already.

Winter is coming to HBO. Hot damn.

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Old 04-25-2011, 05:51 AM   #766
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I hope like hell Arya reunites with her wolf. That had to suck.
But so very "Stark" of her to do the tough thing she knew had to be done...

Those Starks and their honor/grim determination... can't separate them.
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Old 04-25-2011, 07:00 AM   #767
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I could swear that in the novels, Catelyn wouldn't let the wolf into the room before that, that she'd kicked it out and it had been wailing outside the window.

But these novels are sooo thick and it's been years since I read them, so it's hard to keep everything straight.

(I intentionally did not re-read them after I heard about the series because I wanted the show to be as fresh as possible...)
Catelyn was really annoyed by the wolves and their constant howling in the book. Coupled with her grief over Bran, she pretty much wanted the wolves gone. After Bran's wolf did his awesome deed, in the book Catelyn made the order that his direwolf is not to leave his room, so a complete 180. My wife is reading the book right now pretty much in lockstep with the show and she pointed that out.
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Old 04-25-2011, 07:03 AM   #768
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Also, a lot of the critics who got to see the first half of the season before the premiere said the 2nd episode was the weakest of the lot. If thats the case then the rest of the season is going to be amazing.
I think many will sour on the episode simply because of the end when Ned has to do what he does to Lady. That is partially tempered by Bran opening his eyes right before the end credits.

Overall, still an extremely well-done episode. I was dreading the Lady scene but that was also expertly done and achieved its purpose.
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Old 04-25-2011, 07:17 AM   #769
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Yep.

Now since Bran is awake I hope he spills the beans on the twins ****ing
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Old 04-25-2011, 07:19 AM   #770
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Yep.

Now since Bran is awake I hope he spills the beans on the twins ****ing
Lol...yeah, because that was worse than PUSHING HIM OUT A WINDOW! :P
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Old 04-25-2011, 07:29 AM   #771
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Couple random questions. Not sure if I just missed the set-up to these or if they will be explained later as the season unfolds:

1. Why is Tyrion with Snow and the Night Watchmen out in the forest?

2. Why was the Stark mom (forgot her name) so pissed at Snow when he went in to say goodbye to Bran?

3. Why doesn't Snow carry his father's last name? He is Ned Stark's son, right? I'm guessing there's a lot more to this part of the story given Stark's comment to Snow that he will tell him about his mother when he gets back.

Overall I thought it was a very solid episode. I like it more than the premiere.
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Old 04-25-2011, 07:42 AM   #772
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Couple random questions. Not sure if I just missed the set-up to these or if they will be explained later as the season unfolds:

1. Why is Tyrion with Snow and the Night Watchmen out in the forest?

2. Why was the Stark mom (forgot her name) so pissed at Snow when he went in to say goodbye to Bran?

3. Why doesn't Snow carry his father's last name? He is Ned Stark's son, right? I'm guessing there's a lot more to this part of the story given Stark's comment to Snow that he will tell him about his mother when he gets back.

Overall I thought it was a very solid episode. I like it more than the premiere.
As someone who didn't read the books, I gather.

1. They were on their way to the big wall thing.
2. I would guess she doesn't care much for the constant reminder that her husband not only had an affair but had a child from that affair.
3. Because was Stark was married to Catelyn at the time he fathered Snow.
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Old 04-25-2011, 08:01 AM   #773
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As someone who didn't read the books, I gather.

1. They were on their way to the big wall thing.
2. I would guess she doesn't care much for the constant reminder that her husband not only had an affair but had a child from that affair.
3. Because was Stark was married to Catelyn at the time he fathered Snow.
To add to the above:

1) Tyrion just wanted the adventure of seeing the Wall. And I get the impression he was tired of being around his family.
2) Nothing to add here, that nailed it.
3) Bastards of high birth born in the north take the last name Snow. Each region has its own bastard name.
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Old 04-25-2011, 08:14 AM   #774
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I'm glad they changed the painfully bad, possibly worst line of dialogue in the entire book series, when Jon says goodbye to Bran, and Catelyn says "It should have been you..." It just seemed too soapish and doesn't fit at all.
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As someone who didn't read the books, I gather.

1. They were on their way to the big wall thing.
2. I would guess she doesn't care much for the constant reminder that her husband not only had an affair but had a child from that affair.
3. Because was Stark was married to Catelyn at the time he fathered Snow.
So she's a massive bitch to Snow to this day simply because her husband got some strange on the side one time?

And she screams at him when he's simply going to say goodbye to his half-brother?

I figured there was more to the story; guess she is just a c#nt.
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Old 04-25-2011, 08:23 AM   #776
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So she's a massive bitch to Snow to this day simply because her husband got some strange on the side one time?

And she screams at him when he's simply going to say goodbye to his half-brother?

I figured there was more to the story; guess she is just a c#nt.
Catelyn is pretty awesome, actually (and crazy dynamic). But yeah, her deal with Snow is a flaw in her character (GRRM loves to give his good characters flaws and his bad characters merits). That being said, it's also indicative of Catelyn's true, pure love for Ned. Robert gets some on the side constantly, and Cersei doesn't really give a shit because she doesn't love Robert. Catelyn, on the other hand, truly loves Ned, and his bastard is a reminder that Ned's love for her might not be as true.
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A few thoughts...

1) Cersei is coming around to being the loathsome character that I love to hate. Her piping up with "there's another direwolf" made want to slap her.

2) The Hound doesn't seem scarred enough.

3) Ilyn Payne was perfect, creepy as hell.
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A few thoughts...

1) Cersei is coming around to being the loathsome character that I love to hate. Her piping up with "there's another direwolf" made want to slap her.

2) The Hound doesn't seem scarred enough.

3) Ilyn Payne was perfect, creepy as hell.
They had a good side shot of the Hound where his scars were pretty evident. Fit what I pictured for him, and also knowing how he got the scars it seems to be a pretty good representation.
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To add to the above:

3) Bastards of high birth born in the north take the last name Snow. Each region has its own bastard name.
Yeah, they didn't really explain that like they did in the book. Each region's bastard name is fitting for the area, like they are a child of the area itself. Snow for the north, because well, it is the north.

Others that might show up are Pyke, Rivers, Stone, Flowers, Storm, Hill, and Sand.
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They did a bit of showing the relationship with Snow and Cat on the first episode, when he looked up at her when he was putting the arrows back on the range. They cut out a lot of it though. There was a lot more to it in the book where he started out in the hall at the welcome dinner for the King to Winterfell. The Starks and King's family were all at a main table, but Jon was set elsewhere with the servants and like. He fumed there for a while and I think some of the others there made some more comments about it and he finally left to go outside. That was when it picked up where Benjen arrived and the Bastard/Dwarf talk with Tyrion.

EDIT: Seems like int he book Cersei and Cat had some words about it too, and Cersei said something about how it must be insulting to have Jon around like that, as a constant reminder.
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