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Old 10-29-2023, 06:50 PM  
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Let's Talk About Nagy's Playcalling
I think we can all agree that our offense has been "off" all season, minus the Bears and Chargers games. Mahomes hasn't looked himself by and large, and that could well be because of the talent around him, but watching the plays unfold just makes me wonder why some of the plays are being called in the first place.

Today was an abomination on many fronts with the offense but it sure looked a good deal like an Alex Smith game plan, minus Mahomes' patented making something out of nothing scramble drill passes. The run plays were predictable and getting nothing, but they kept forcing them. We threw the ball laterally as much as horizontally (seemingly), and the plays themselves just look, well, off.

Is it Nagy, is it Mahomes, is it the talent outside of Mahomes and Kelce, or is it a combination of all that? Or was this game just an outlier and our annual piss down our legs game as has been suggested, and I'm just OMG-ing for no good reason?

Something FEELS different than in the past so far this season. I would love to put my finger on what it is, precisely.
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Old 11-05-2023, 12:52 PM   #151
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It's not bottom line. Get players who can execute instead of having to do gymnastics to scheme around them. It reminds me of the days of scheming around Jordan black not holding his block for a split second.
Who knew that JuJu was the linchpin of our offense?
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Old 11-05-2023, 12:52 PM   #152
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I still don't understand why Chief Fans disliked EB so much. He was really, really good at his job and was an important part of our success. One would think Chief Fans would appreciate that.
I was never sure how much EB was involved.

But Nagy stuff easier to spot as a lot of the plays we are running now look like Nagy's Bears who were bottom 3 in offense.
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Old 11-05-2023, 12:53 PM   #153
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I still don't understand why Chief Fans disliked EB so much. He was really, really good at his job and was an important part of our success. One would think Chief Fans would appreciate that.
They were mad that he yelled at Patrick a few times.
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I was never sure how much EB was involved.

But Nagy stuff easier to spot as did a lot of the plays we are running now with the Bears.
We knew. Andy, Pat, Trav, etc. mentioned regularly how important EB was to our offensive gameplans, especially the install.
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Who knew that JuJu was the linchpin of our offense?
He was a good player who took pressure off Kelce. That's what we are missing now.
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Old 11-05-2023, 12:55 PM   #156
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You have the same players as last year, moran.
All except for our leading WR. And the guys that were counted on to step up have regressed. But other than that, yes their the same.
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All except for our leading WR. And the guys that were counted on to step up have regressed. But other than that, yes their the same.
Rice replaced most of Jujus production and he missed time anyways and we were fine.
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Rice replaced most of Jujus production and he missed time anyways and we were fine.
He really hasn't. He's a better player but he's running a limited route tree and still isn't consistently playing tons of snaps. Juju was routinely getting 8+ targets a game. He wasn't all world but he's clearly missed. And it stings more because defenses have gotten way better at defending our look and others across the league like us
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Chiefs were 3rd in 2nd half points scored with 13.3 last year.

Chiefs are 30th with 6.6 this year.

We have let up on 2 touchdowns to end the game. That puts us at 8.1 if we convert those.

That puts the Chiefs at 26th in second half points.


Yes, I know we win, and we keep winning thanks to our defense, but this is concerning.
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Chiefs were 3rd in 2nd half points scored with 13.3 last year.

Chiefs are 30th with 6.6 this year.

We have let up on 2 touchdowns to end the game. That puts us at 8.1 if we convert those.

That puts the Chiefs at 26th in second half points.


Yes, I know we win, and we keep winning thanks to our defense, but this is concerning.
Yes, this is particularly concerning. We aren't closing out games the way we should. The D came up huge today but the offense had the ball with 4 min left and basically went 3 and out because we couldn't convert a 3rd and 1....again.

I can't for the life of me understand why we never just smash it up the middle or sneak it on 3rd and short? Teams know we won't and they know we will do everything but that.
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Let's Talk About Nagy's Playcalling


Let’s not. Its depressing.
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Was it just me or did it look like Andy dialed down the play calling in the 2nd half? Almost like he's saving plays and didn't want to use them with that big of a lead
This is the cope people always use. And it's not like we were lighting up the field in the first half. There was barely anything to dial back from. And as bad as our offense has been (relative to expectations) there's no reason to dial them back ever.
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Chiefs were 3rd in 2nd half points scored with 13.3 last year.

Chiefs are 30th with 6.6 this year.

We have let up on 2 touchdowns to end the game. That puts us at 8.1 if we convert those.

That puts the Chiefs at 26th in second half points.


Yes, I know we win, and we keep winning thanks to our defense, but this is concerning.
Wow. I didn't know we were bad. Less than a touchdown in a half with the best QB ever is something that should never happen.
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Chiefs were 3rd in 2nd half points scored with 13.3 last year.

Chiefs are 30th with 6.6 this year.

We have let up on 2 touchdowns to end the game. That puts us at 8.1 if we convert those.

That puts the Chiefs at 26th in second half points.


Yes, I know we win, and we keep winning thanks to our defense, but this is concerning.
It’s definitely concerning
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