If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Chronic

They're saying the same things about the Chiefs

The Chiefs were the worst team in the NFL last year

Teams are penciling in a W when they see the Chiefs on their schedule

Good thing they are using a pencil.. cuz Chiefs gonna win 9 games this season.. two of them, easy wins against Oakland. Let them all underestimate KC.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by splatbass

Then I have no idea why you hate Alex Smith so much, since he is the perfect QB for controlling TOP and keeping the D off the field.

unproven as a Chief. We shall see...

And you know good and well the hate is about is inability to be more than game manager who will NOT take this team to a SB victory. The Niners realized this, why can't you?
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[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

unproven as a Chief. We shall see...

And you know good and well the hate is about is inability to be more than game manager who will NOT take this team to a SB victory. The Niners realized this, why can't you?
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I think that a competent, high level game manager is what this team needs. They don't need a Favre, they need an Aikman.

I believe that A. Smith is that guy, especially in a West Coast, Lavell Edwards system that Andy Reid runs (especially, especially one that will have pistol/spread elements thrown into the mix).

This team has invested into the offensive line to control the line of scrimmage, has the second best running back in the league, one of the top receivers (who also is one of the best, if not the best possession type receivers in the league) and a very solid tight end corps.

In addition, the defense has the hallmarks of being top 3/5 if the line is able to play to the rest of the teams level.

At that point, you want a quarterback who is accurate and who doesn't put the ball into the defenses hands.

A. Smith isn't going to take the top off of a defense with his arm, but that's not going to be the game plan anyway. Time of possession, ball control, and a substantially better/effective red zone offense is what you want and what you will see from this team.

What I see in A. Smith is a Matt Hasselback type of guy (and I think he's got better physical skills than MH) in this system, and Hasselback was able to get his team to the Superbowl and arguably won it if not for some of the worst SB officiating ever.

My predictions for this team as it's currently built:

2013: 10-6 with a potential first round playoff victory.
2014: 12-4 and a shot at the title.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I think that a competent, high level game manager is what this team needs. They don't need a Favre, they need an Aikman.

This isn't the ****ing 90's anymore.

The most well-rounded team in the league dumped Alex Smith because he couldn't get it done.

Are the Chiefs a better team than the 49ers? No.

So why is he just what the Chiefs need? Have we stopped carrying about winning the ultimate prize? We're fine with middle of the pack? 1 and done in the playoffs?

[Messier]

Originally Posted by jd1020

This isn't the ****ing 90's anymore.

The most well-rounded team in the league dumped Alex Smith because he couldn't get it done.

Are the Chiefs a better team than the 49ers? No.

So why is he just what the Chiefs need? Have we stopped carrying about winning the ultimate prize? We're fine with middle of the pack? 1 and done in the playoffs?

Dumped him? The Cardinals dumped Kolb, Smith wasn't going anywhere without a trade for high round picks. Do you think they were just about to release him?

And what couldn't he get done. Sorry, getting the team to the NFC championship and starting 2012 6-2-1 and one the highest rated QBs just isn't cutting it. JH was going to start CK sooner or later. He is his guy, and is more dynamic than Smith, but to act like Smith was a problem is not true.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Messier

Dumped him? The Cardinals dumped Kolb, Smith wasn't going anywhere without a trade for high round picks. Do you think they were just about to release him?

And what couldn't he get done. Sorry, getting the team to the NFC championship and starting 2012 6-2-1 and one the highest rated QBs just isn't cutting it. JH was going to start CK sooner or later. He is his guy, and is more dynamic than Smith, but to act like Smith was a problem is not true.

So being shit on third down isn't a problem?

Not being able to drive the ball down the field, even Dorsey admits this, isn't a problem?
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[milkman]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I think that a competent, high level game manager is what this team needs. They don't need a Favre, they need an Aikman.

I believe that A. Smith is that guy, especially in a West Coast, Lavell Edwards system that Andy Reid runs (especially, especially one that will have pistol/spread elements thrown into the mix).

This team has invested into the offensive line to control the line of scrimmage, has the second best running back in the league, one of the top receivers (who also is one of the best, if not the best possession type receivers in the league) and a very solid tight end corps.

In addition, the defense has the hallmarks of being top 3/5 if the line is able to play to the rest of the teams level.

At that point, you want a quarterback who is accurate and who doesn't put the ball into the defenses hands.

A. Smith isn't going to take the top off of a defense with his arm, but that's not going to be the game plan anyway. Time of possession, ball control, and a substantially better/effective red zone offense is what you want and what you will see from this team.

What I see in A. Smith is a Matt Hasselback type of guy (and I think he's got better physical skills than MH) in this system, and Hasselback was able to get his team to the Superbowl and arguably won it if not for some of the worst SB officiating ever.

My predictions for this team as it's currently built:

2013: 10-6 with a potential first round playoff victory.
2014: 12-4 and a shot at the title.

Troy Aikman could take the top off a defense, and take over games when the team needed him to do so.

Michael Irvin would be a highly talented receiver who never fully realized his potential had Alex Smith been his QB.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Messier

Dumped him? The Cardinals dumped Kolb, Smith wasn't going anywhere without a trade for high round picks. Do you think they were just about to release him?

And what couldn't he get done. Sorry, getting the team to the NFC championship and starting 2012 6-2-1 and one the highest rated QBs just isn't cutting it. JH was going to start CK sooner or later. He is his guy, and is more dynamic than Smith, but to act like Smith was a problem is not true.

The 9ers were going to trade Smith this offseason.

They just managed to fleece the Chiefs.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Messier

Dumped him? The Cardinals dumped Kolb, Smith wasn't going anywhere without a trade for high round picks. Do you think they were just about to release him?

And what couldn't he get done. Sorry, getting the team to the NFC championship and starting 2012 6-2-1 and one the highest rated QBs just isn't cutting it. JH was going to start CK sooner or later. He is his guy, and is more dynamic than Smith, but to act like Smith was a problem is not true.

You're a moron if you think they were going to pay Alex 7.5M to be a backup. He was on his way out of SF with a trade or being cut.

Smith was holding that team back and there is no debate to that.

[milkman]

And for those in this thread that think Eli Manning isn't elite, I give you Ramses Barden.

Eli's inconsistency is due, to a large degree, to the fact that he plays behind one of the worst O-Lines in the league.

But he is a guy that makes big plays in the biggest moments, and that to me is exactly what defines elite.

Actually, there are a number of definitions for elite QB.

Peyton Manning is elite, because he can carry a team through the regular season, but unlike his little brother, he shrinks in the biggest moments, and there's no way in hell he wins more SBs behind that sorry than Eli has.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by jd1020

You're a moron if you think they were going to pay Alex 7.5M to be a backup. He was on his way out of SF with a trade or being cut.

Smith was holding that team back and there is no debate to that.

They weren't cutting him you idiot. How was he holding them back?

[Messier]

Originally Posted by milkman

The 9ers were going to trade Smith this offseason.

They just managed to fleece the Chiefs.

By about a round.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Messier

They weren't cutting him you idiot. How was he holding them back?

Could they afford him?
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[Messier]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Could they afford him?
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I guess Smith was lying at the PC.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Messier

They weren't cutting him you idiot. How was he holding them back?

You're right. They weren't going to cut him since they were going to get at least something for him. I bet they never imagined getting what they did, though. However, there was a 0% chance Alex was going to be on that team for the 2013 season.

It's been said too many times on this forum to repeat the deficiencies in Alex's game. I'm sorry you are too ignorant to believe them.