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Old 10-06-2004, 04:29 PM  
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The Official "Lost" the series discussion

I figured I would start a thread for this and see what happens....there seemed to be quite a few viewers on the board for this show the past few weeks.....I like the direction the show is taking so far......episode 3 tonight at 7 central on ABC....
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Old 03-20-2008, 09:20 PM   #2776
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I loved it. This season has ruled.

I hate Michael. He needs to die almost as much as Ben. But it's good to have his weasel ass back on the show.
I thought it was pretty-much pointless until the last 5 minutes or so of the episode.


And I agree that this season has ruled. I just didn't think this episode did.

Can't have a masterpiece every week.
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Old 03-21-2008, 05:16 AM   #2777
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I thought it was pretty-much pointless until the last 5 minutes or so of the episode.
It is strange how people's views of the same thing can be so polar opposite. I thought everything was great UNTIL the last 5 minutes. Just goes to prove the "different strokes" cliche.
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Old 03-21-2008, 06:50 AM   #2778
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Old 03-21-2008, 08:34 AM   #2779
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It is strange how people's views of the same thing can be so polar opposite. I thought everything was great UNTIL the last 5 minutes. Just goes to prove the "different strokes" cliche.
Well, I'd characterize it as 5 of the last 10 minutes. My 5 minutes stopped right after Sayeed turned "Kevin" in, right before the shooting started in the woods. I didn't much like that part, either (in fact, I fast-forwarded through most of it).
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Old 03-21-2008, 11:03 AM   #2780
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Old 03-21-2008, 11:36 AM   #2781
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I thought it was pretty-much pointless until the last 5 minutes or so of the episode.


And I agree that this season has ruled. I just didn't think this episode did.

Can't have a masterpiece every week.
Pointless?

Michael got what he wanted - he and Walt got off the island. The only problem is that it's not what he expected. Not only was he not viewed as a survivor of Oceanic Flight 815, he lost Walt and had to change his identity. Additionally, he became suicidal due to his actions.

Now, he's working for the ONE man he hates: Ben Linus. Ben stole his child, "forced" him to murder Ana-Lucia (Libby was collateral damage) and he's trapped. He can't even kill himself. And the people that trusted him (the Losties) have now turned their back on him. He is, in a word, an "Island".

I didn't find this episode pointless in any way.

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Old 03-21-2008, 12:24 PM   #2782
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Old 03-21-2008, 12:24 PM   #2783
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Pointless?

Michael got what he wanted - he and Walt got off the island. The only problem is that it's not what he expected. Not only was he not viewed as a survivor of Oceanic Flight 815, he lost Walt and had to change his identity. Additionally, he became suicidal due to his actions.

Now, he's working for the ONE man he hates: Ben Linus. Ben stole his child, "forced" him to murder Ana-Lucia (Libby was collateral damage) and he's trapped. He can't even kill himself. And the people that trusted him (the Losties) have now turned their back on him. He is, in a word, an "Island".

I didn't find this episode pointless in any way.
All of which could have been covered in about 10 minutes. They made me sit through an hour of it. Hence...pointless.

It was by far the weakest hour of the year. Although they have set the bar high.
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Old 03-21-2008, 12:27 PM   #2784
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All of which could have been covered in about 10 minutes. They made me sit through an hour of it. Hence...pointless.

It was by far the weakest hour of the year. Although they have set the bar high.
I thought it was unusual that they had a show that didn't feature Jack or Kate. At all. I may be wrong, but I think that's the first time that's happened.
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Old 03-21-2008, 12:41 PM   #2785
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I thought it was unusual that they had a show that didn't feature Jack or Kate. At all. I may be wrong, but I think that's the first time that's happened.

Jack was in the opening scene....when they were going back to the whole Michael getting off the island thing.....does that count?
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Old 03-21-2008, 12:46 PM   #2786
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Old 03-21-2008, 01:08 PM   #2787
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Jack was in the opening scene....when they were going back to the whole Michael getting off the island thing.....does that count?
He was in the preview, but there was no new show footage with him or Kate. That's what I meant.
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Old 03-21-2008, 02:15 PM   #2788
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I was impressed with the episode. The only thing I didn't really like was the "not yet" note that popped up.
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Baby Lee has done a good job in this thread.

To those about to watch, we salute you.

That said I'm buying his "Limbo" theory. I'm not sure if he truly endorsed it or just posted it as a thought but I'd agree.

Ben could be compared to God or a Satan depending on how you look at it.

Ben asked men to sacrifice for what they believed in most. Michael, Locke, etc.

Locke had to kill his father as a test (the opposite of a fairly familar biblical tale. Instead of the father killing the son it's the other way around.)
Ben said he would never punish the innocent (or would only punish the wicked.)
Ben has said to kill someone but ONLY when it became a difinative test of their character (a moral test?)
Is "the box" not similar to "the ark?" Whomever possesses it holds the power. It commands the "stronger" army.

And on top of this (furthering the limbo theory) nothing definitive can happen there. A man can die but he can't die by his own hand. If that's true that means he can only die if someone else kills him. And if that is true that means he only "fails" or "dies" due to his/her own actions.

On top of this there are many clear savior allusions. He (Ben) is either a Christ or Antichrist figure.
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