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Old 04-17-2005, 01:57 PM   Topic Starter
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Old 04-17-2005, 02:27 PM   #2
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SF better hope that Rodgers isn't as overhyped as Boller was. IMO, Boller was easy to spot as a bust.
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Old 04-17-2005, 02:37 PM   #3
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The slightly more interesting piece of print is:

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The Kansas City Chiefs reached a contract agreement with Miami cornerback Patrick Surtain, and they're expected to make a draft-day trade.

Kansas City may try to trade up to get Texas outside linebacker Derrick Johnson.

Adding Surtain, Johnson, linebacker Kendrell Bell, end Carlos Hall and safety Sammy Knight to their defense would improve them immensely on that side of the ball in what's expected to be Dick Vermeil's last season as coach.
It sounds like nothing more than conjecture, as no sources are named, but I thought it was interesting.

As for the Rodgers/Smith debate, I don't think either will be a superstar in the league, but I'm taking Rodgers over Smith in the long run.
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Old 04-17-2005, 02:41 PM   #4
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The question is what do we have that is such value to trade up?
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Old 04-17-2005, 02:54 PM   #5
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It all depends on what we trade for Surtain, if in fact we do end up trading for him. Trading a 2nd will probably kill any realistic chance of trading up, because in order for the Chiefs to move up this year, they'd have to trade their 1st and 2nd rounders. That would move them up to around 8, but therein lies the problem.

I don't doubt the Chiefs could package enough picks to move up, but the problem is convincing the teams in that range that their players they want will still be there @ #15.

As much as I'd like a trade up to happen, I don't think there is a realistic chance, unless Peterson sweetens the pot with a mid to high round pick next year, and I don't think CP has it in him to do so.
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Old 04-17-2005, 10:15 PM   #6
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The question is what do we have that is such value to trade up?
I think the idea is to trade this year's 4th and next year's 2nd for Surtain. Then we trade this year's 1st and next year's 1st for Johnson. Then maybe we trade this year's 5th and a conditional 3rd next year for someone on draft day. The idea is to trade away all first day picks because we are in "win now" mode and "the window is closing" and "Carl does better on day two, anyway." I'm not sure how we can get rid of the rest of our picks (this year and next). It sucks we can't trade our 3rd round compensation pick! Lucky for us, just getting Surtain and Johnson will get us to the SuperBowl!!!1!
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Old 04-18-2005, 05:20 AM   #7
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I think the idea is to trade this year's 4th and next year's 2nd for Surtain. Then we trade this year's 1st and next year's 1st for Johnson. Then maybe we trade this year's 5th and a conditional 3rd next year for someone on draft day. The idea is to trade away all first day picks because we are in "win now" mode and "the window is closing" and "Carl does better on day two, anyway." I'm not sure how we can get rid of the rest of our picks (this year and next). It sucks we can't trade our 3rd round compensation pick! Lucky for us, just getting Surtain and Johnson will get us to the SuperBowl!!!1!
I sincerely hope you're being facetious...
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Old 04-17-2005, 02:40 PM   #8
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If we trade for Surtain (for arguments sake lets say they take this years 4th and next years 2nd) what do we have that we could use to trade up to the top 8 to get Johnson?

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The Kansas City Chiefs reached a contract agreement with Miami cornerback Patrick Surtain, and they're expected to make a draft-day trade.



Kansas City may try to trade up to get Texas outside linebacker Derrick Johnson.


Adding Surtain, Johnson, linebacker Kendrell Bell, end Carlos Hall and safety Sammy Knight to their defense would improve them immensely on that side of the ball in what's expected to be Dick Vermeil's last season as coach.
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Old 04-17-2005, 02:51 PM   #9
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our 1st this year and next years 1st would put KC in the #5 or #6 spot
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our 1st this year and next years 1st would put KC in the #5 or #6 spot
Is that worth it to you?
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I'm just saying the possibilities. personally I would wait till the #9 to #11 spot
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Johnson isn't THAT special.

he's good enough to tradeup to the #9 to #11 spot
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