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Old 11-10-2014, 12:09 AM  
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*** Official 2014 AL Champion Royals Off-season Repository ***
So, I didn't see a thread started, and all the others are pretty maxed out to the point where a fresh thread would be needed soon either way.

Time to share the run up to ST & and another memorable year in the making!

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Old 11-11-2014, 03:51 PM   #76
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I wonder if that deal can be extended now as sort of a good faith move by the network.
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Old 11-11-2014, 03:58 PM   #77
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The Royals are meeting with Butlers agent today. There also interested in pitcher Brett Anderson
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Old 11-11-2014, 03:59 PM   #78
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"Making money hand over fist" is one of those sorts of vague expressions that lets the reader believe what they want to believe, and react accordingly, but we really don't have to go there.

We think they made about an extra $10-15MM on the postseason. They will probably sell about 300,000 extra tickets next season. This stuff can be quantified.

None of that leads to a top 1/3 in baseball payroll, at least until our terrible TV deal expires or is redone.
No, you and I are in agreement. I would just like to see a bump from the previous low 90 million to around $105 million, give or take.

I don't think that is overextending their payroll and yet provides some nominal cash flow to improve their roster.

I don't know why that seems like an irrational desire or not feasible from an organizational standpoint of remaining profitable and increasing the value of the franchise.
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Old 11-11-2014, 04:13 PM   #79
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I wonder if that deal can be extended now as sort of a good faith move by the network.
We are so far removed from the end of our contract, that an extension now is probably not a good idea, unless we were really sure the bubble was going to bust. If FSKC contacted the Royals to talk about the deal right now, they should be suspicious. Extension talks with Fox would make more sense in 2018 or so.
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No, you and I are in agreement. I would just like to see a bump from the previous low 90 million to around $105 million, give or take.

I don't think that is overextending their payroll and yet provides some nominal cash flow to improve their roster.

I don't know why that seems like an irrational desire or not feasible from an organizational standpoint of remaining profitable and increasing the value of the franchise.
100-105 sounds reasonable. If we can sell 2.2MM tickets and make the playoffs again sometime in the next couple years, we ought to be able to break even there, and if it doesn't work, we have a losing season, and it ends up being a small short term loss, well we probably need to float a little money before the new TV deal anyway.

I don't expect Glass to operate at a long-term loss, but 100 or so doesn't sound like a big ask. (edit2: operating loss. I don't count capital gains, at all)

edit: and on the upside, if ticket and apparel sales go better than expected and we end up on pace for 2.4MM+ tickets instead of the 2.2MM we're thinking, then thats enough to swing a decent deadline deal if needed, too.
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Old 11-11-2014, 04:20 PM   #81
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Old 11-11-2014, 04:25 PM   #82
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Butler had to LOVE that Cuddyer deal
It would seem to set his value in the $5-7 million range. If Cuddyer, who is coming off superior years and has more versatility/can actually play a position, can get $10 million/year, I can't imagine Butler is in quite that same territory.
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I dunno. Butler is 6 years younger and Cuddyer only played 49 games last year. His effectiveness in the OF is something I'd doubt. And his coors #s seriously inflated his production.

I'd like to see Butler in Coors for a year.
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It would seem to set his value in the $5-7 million range. If Cuddyer, who is coming off superior years and has more versatility/can actually play a position, can get $10 million/year, I can't imagine Butler is in quite that same territory.
This. I have assumed that Butler was going to get $6-8MM/YR. I can potentially see the Royals doing a 2/$14MM deal
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