So tired of seeing Brees4MVP

[dlphg9]

Yes, another MVP thread. I am selfish and wanted to have my own. It's starting to get a bit annoying with idiot Saints fans and idiot media personalities thinking that Drew Brees deserves the MVP. I did a little break down of the two from this year and it made it even more clear that Mahomes is light years ahead of Drew.

Anyone that thinks Brees is even in the conversation for MVP is a complete idiot. 4 straight games of 203 or less yards, 4 straight games with an interception, 3 straight games with 1 or less passing tds. Alex Smith puts up better numbers than that and he isn't even close to an MVP. Brees has the number 7 scoring defense. A defense that has held their opponent to 20 or less points a game in 10 out of 14 games, so lets not act like Brees is the reason that team is winning.

Patrick Mahomes on the other hand is on pace to have the 2nd best season by a quarterback in history. More than likely he is going to pass for 50 td passes, something only Tom Brady and Peyton Manning have done. It took Brady 7 years to do it and Manning 16 seasons to do it. Mahomes is probably going to do it in just his first starting season. Hes also on pace for around 5200 yards, so in his first season as a starter he will have a better season than Drew Brees and Tom Brady have ever had, both have been starting for 17 years. So Brees has the number 7 defense to help him out, but Mahomes isn't that fortunate. He has the number 28 scoring defense. So lets quit acting like Brees has to do everything to help that team win. Any mediocre QB could be on that team and they would win. You want to say that Alex did very well with this team last year. Alex is a decent qb, but take a look at his numbers when a the opponent scores 24+ points (9-42-1). The reason that matters is because the Chiefs Defense has allowed 24 or more points in 8 out of 14 games this year. Thankfully the Chiefs have a stud at qb and is 5-3 in those games.

So the case some people are arguing for Drew Brees. Oh he has a 74.9 completion percent!!1!!! The list of highest single season completion percentages isn't filled with many great QBs, the top 20 list has only has 5 HoF qbs on it and is littered with mediocre QBs, like Sam Bradford, Ken Anderson, Kirk Cousins, Tony Romo, Brian Grese. Only 2 QBs that have won MVP had the highest completion percentage that year, Young and Montana, but Young was also first in TDs and 4th in YDs and Montana was 4th in TDs, 8th in YDs, and was 11-2 as a starter. Some really mediocre qbs have had pretty high completion percentage, so I wouldn't try to back an argument with that stat. Well what about the number of Ints? Well that isn't a MVP worthy stat either. The list of guys who have the least amount of Ints in a season is littered with guys that didn't amount to anything. Hell Steve Deberg has the 2nd lowest ints in a season and Alex Smith had 5 in a season with the 49ers.

Now the case for Patrick Mahomes. He is 1st in TD passes (11 more than 2nd place) and only 5 TDs away from being only the 3rd QB to get to 50. In the top 6 most passing TDs 5 of the players won the MVP that year. The lone exception is in 2011 Drew Brees had 46 passing TDs (good for the 5th most ever) and lost the MVP to Aaron Rodgers who just happened to have 45 TD passes (tied for 6th most ever with Patrick Mahomes). He is also 1st in passing yards and is 88 yards ahead of 2nd place. You would think that having the most yards and touchdowns would mean he would have the most passing attempts, well you would be wrong. He is currently 6th in passing attempts, 64 attempts from Big Ben who has thrown the most passes so far. He also has the 12th best completion percentage at 67.1, which is pretty damn good.

Both players lead the top team in their division. The Saints only have 1 more win than the Chiefs, the Saints have played the 15th hardest schedule and the Chiefs have played the 8th hardest schedule. The Saints' defense is ranked 7th in ppg and the Chiefs is ranked 28th in ppg. So it really just blows my mind how anyone can look at the stats and say that Drew Brees deserves the MVP over Patrick Mahomes.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

Do you have any idea how many cases of Dew are on the line?

I don't even know what this means.

[Best22]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

I can't get energized for individual awards. They do nothing for me interest-wise. But even if you do care, why get so worked up about it when the vote hasn't happened?

I get it's a football site and I'm all for reading your breakdowns but there are enough things that can get your blood pressure up when it comes to the chiefs.

If he gets 50TD/5000yards it’d be a joke if he doesn’t get it

Initially I didn’t give a rats ass but now that Mahomes is so far ahead it’d simply be disrespectful (assuming everything stays the same) to award it to anyone but Mahomes

[Imon Yourside]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

I don't even know what this means.

Just making fun of Thkip and Thannon.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Best22

If he gets 50TD/5000yards it’d be a joke if he doesn’t get it

Initially I didn’t give a rats ass but now that Mahomes is so far ahead it’d simply be disrespectful (assuming everything stays the same) to award it to anyone but Mahokes

I don't disagree but until that happens I'm not gonna flip out. For all we know a majority of voters agree.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

Just making fun of Thkip and Thannon.

I refuse to listen to them even in commercials.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

tl;dr

But you should get over yourself. Brees should be in the conversation for MVP.

Get over myself? Huh? No he should not be in the MVP talk. He's not even in the top 5. 8 games with under 250 yards, 3 games under 175 yards. Nothing about that even whispers mvp. Rivers, Luck, Mack, Donald, Gurley, and hell even Tyreek Hill deserve it over Drew "I got shit smeared on my face" Brees.

[In58men]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Get over myself? Huh? No he should not be in the MVP talk. He's not even in the top 5. 8 games with under 250 yards, 3 games under 175 yards. Nothing about that even whispers mvp. Rivers, Luck, Mack, Donald, Gurley, and hell even Tyreek Hill deserve it over Drew "I got shit smeared on my face" Brees.

It’s not that serious

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by In58men

It’s not that serious

Yes, it is. It's just another way that KC can get ****ed by the NFL. Hey KC let us take a home game away from you and you'll get rewarded with a draft. Nope, well at least not anytime soon. ****ing Nashville got 2019 and then Las Vegas gets rewarded for being such a dedicated football town. Hey KC to get a Super Bowl you're going to have to build a stupid ass retractable roof. Oh hey New York you guys want a Superbowl? Oh it's cold as balls in early February and you have snow storms sometimes? Oh well no need to worry about that, you'll get your Superbowl! KC continually gets ****ed in the ass by the NFL and Clark is a good little cuck and likes to watch them while they bend us over. So they are laying the foundation to **** Patrick Mahomes over and I'm tired of seeing it every where.

[007]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Yes, it is. It's just another way that KC can get ****ed by the NFL. Hey KC let us take a home game away from you and you'll get rewarded with a draft. Nope, well at least not anytime soon. ****ing Nashville got 2019 and then Las Vegas gets rewarded for being such a dedicated football town. Hey KC to get a Super Bowl you're going to have to build a stupid ass retractable roof. Oh hey New York you guys want a Superbowl? Oh it's cold as balls in early February and you have snow storms sometimes? Oh well no need to worry about that, you'll get your Superbowl! KC continually gets ****ed in the ass by the NFL and Clark is a good little outstanding citizen and likes to watch them while they bend us over. So they are laying the foundation to **** Patrick Mahomes over and I'm tired of seeing it every where.

That New York getting a superbowl really pissed me off as a football fan. Can't have a superbowl in a cold weather city my ass. I was really hoping for a ****ing blizzard on that one.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by 007

That New York getting a superbowl really pissed me off as a football fan. Can't have a superbowl in a cold weather city my ass. I was really hoping for a ****ing blizzard on that one.

Yep, irritating as hell. The NFL gave a huge **** you to KC with that bullshit

[OlineDline]

If a QB wins it, it should be Mahomes (last two games notwithstanding).

[In58men]

There’s really not much to do in KC. Maybe its not as touristy as the NFL would like it to be. I can see a lot of people not wanting to go because of that reason. I’m not hating because I like KC and I have been there 3 different times. It’s one of those cities that if you don’t go, you’re not missing anything. I don’t think it attracts the attention they’re looking for.

[OlineDline]

Originally Posted by In58men

There’s really not much to do in KC. Maybe its not as touristy as the NFL would like it to be. I can see a lot of people not wanting to go because of that reason. I’m not hating because I like KC and I have been there 3 different times. It’s one of those cities that if you don’t go, you’re not missing anything. I don’t think it attracts the attention they’re looking for.

This doesn't make sense.

Cities KC is easily better than:

Houston
LA (Has anyone actually been there, it's TERRIBLE to visit)
Seattle
San Francisco
Dallas


Miami, San Diego, Chicago, New York, Philly, Boston...ok. Those are big, easily walked, lots to do in small areas.

Towns I listed above suck to visit imo. Short of being uber rich and having a personal driver the entire trip (and time to get places) they are not fun to visit.

Houston may be the worst town on Earth.

[Best22]

Originally Posted by In58men

There’s really not much to do in KC. Maybe its not as touristy as the NFL would like it to be. I can see a lot of people not wanting to go because of that reason. I’m not hating because I like KC and I have been there 3 different times. It’s one of those cities that if you don’t go, you’re not missing anything. I don’t think it attracts the attention they’re looking for.

Same could be said of Dallas

But they’ll never put a Superbowl in Arrowhead

Get a downtown dome then it’ll happen

[HolyHandgernade]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I'm starting to think that it's a bit annoying that Chiefs fans are bitching endlessly about an individual award that won't be given out for weeks.

To be fair, fans only care about the MVP vote when they have a horse in the race. I guarantee you, if the player of any other team had a legitimate candidate for MVP they would be just as obsessed with it as Chiefs, Saints and Rams fans are this season. I bet you can also draw a data analysis that would show "the importance" of the award rise and fall with the prospects of said candidate.