Ryan Braun tests positive for PED

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by vailpass

You don't know shit mr. race baiter...

Who said anything about race here?

Ryan Braun's positive test for testosterone showed a level that was extremely elevated, and likely the highest that has been recorded in Major League Baseball, according to sources with knowledge of the NL MVP's test.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201..._epstein/12/12
/ryan.braun.test/index.html

[I]...and now a source close to the 2011 National League MVP has suggested to Teri Thompson of the New York Daily News that the results of the positive test were too high to be taken seriously. As in, they were at a dangerous level.

So you're citing some vague description of an "insanely high" test from a "source close to the 2011 National League MVP" (or basically, the Braun camp as I said) without any real facts at all?

It's amazing what people will believe when they want to.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Who said anything about race here?



So you're citing some vague description of an "insanely high" test from a "source close to the 2011 National League MVP" (or basically, the Braun camp as I said) without any real facts at all?

It's amazing what people will believe when they want to.

I don't think anyone out there is disputing or not believing those stories. Its not like this couldn't be objectively refuted, either Braun had the highest known test result in the history of that test, or he didn't. The "what the hell are they saying, thats that true, that's BS" story would have leaked long ago.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by alnorth

I don't think anyone out there is disputing or not believing those stories.

If they're not, they should. There's little reason to trust any source close to Braun in a situation like this. He has every reason to curry media and public favor.

Its not like this couldn't be objectively refuted, either Braun had the highest known test result in the history of that test, or he didn't. The "what the hell are they saying, thats that true, that's BS" story would have leaked long ago.

Or MLB didn't even bother dealing with such a bogus claim, knowing that the results were perfectly well within a normal PED user's ratio.

Nobody here knows the exact results of Braun's test. Let's not pretend we do based on a vague report months ago on the basis of a single source supposedly close to Ryan Braun. If the supposed "weirdness" of the sample played any real factor in this arbitrator's decision, it would have been a major factor, not a minor one.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

If they're not, they should. There's little reason to trust any source close to Braun in a situation like this. He has every reason to curry media and public favor.

You'd have to presume that they are cross-eyed drooling reeruns, because its not hard to come back with "they are lying, and here's the proof".

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by alnorth

You'd have to presume that they are cross-eyed drooling reeruns, because its not hard to come back with "they are lying, and here's the proof".

Maybe they assumed they didn't have to because no reasonable person would believe a claim like that without evidence from an untrustworthy source?

And of course, there's also the issue for MLB about how this entire process was supposed to be private.

[veist]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Who said anything about race here?



So you're citing some vague description of an "insanely high" test from a "source close to the 2011 National League MVP" (or basically, the Braun camp as I said) without any real facts at all?

It's amazing what people will believe when they want to.

A lot of people wanting to believe the great white hope is clean and totally didn't get off on the thinnest of loopholes. Bet most of them also think your boy Bautista is doping (full disclosure I think he might be too, I don't trust that anyone is clean at this point) absent any actual evidence like this and would be all over him in the same situation.