Snyder leaving?

[ChiefsFanatic]

I just heard on ESPN that Quin Snyder will interview with South Carolina. He and the A.D. went to Duke. Would he really leave?

That would suck for MU.

ChiefsFanatic, 4 of those Final Fours appearances, including one of the Championships, are from 1957 or earlier. 2001 minus 1957 = 44 years. Unless I'm mistaken, that falls in the "40-50 yrs ago" range. The "origin of the game" flag KU likes to wrap themselves in dates further back than that.

That leaves 6 Final Four appearances, with 1 Championship, in the last 43 yrs. Plenty to be proud of, but not awe inspiring.

Those are the FACTS. Apology accepted...

[Spott]

cjderby

MU has 8 Big Eight regular season titles & 6 Big Eight tournament titles in the past 25 years. Before that, they had 3 Big Six(before the Big 8) conference titles & 4 Missouri Valley Conference titles.

[chiefsfan]

cjderby, well it's a lot better than 0 final fours and 0 championships in the last 100 years of basketball, now isn't it?

Chiefsfan, I brought up the Chiefs because you claimed Mizzou has no tradition to speak of. The only way to make that argument is to focus only on post-season results, which the same argument would then mean the Chiefs have no tradition to be proud of. And I bet you don't agree with that, that's all....

[chiefsfan]

cjderby, the chiefs were one of the winningest teams of the 90's as well, Missouri was not even close. Also Missouri has missed the postseason just as many times as the Chiefs have lately.

[Pitt Gorilla]

You don't get it, do you chiefsfan? "but everytime there's an argument over ku and missouri it ends up the same." I thought you backed up your facts. Let me refer you back to your post at 12:06 PM. This sounds a lot like a "come back" opinion. Please reread my original response.

Jeez, you guys sure are sensitive on this. Nowhere did I try to say Mizzou's bball tradition compared to KU's, in fact, I admitted it didn't. All I did was counter your "asinine" opinion that Mizzou's tradition was a joke by making some comparisons to KU. I'm done with this topic!

[chiefsfan]

Here's your facts,

KU has 2 National Championships, 10 Final Four appearances, 30 NCAA Tournament Appearance, 61 Tournament wins, is the winningest team of the 90's, the 3rd winningest program of all time, has a record of 150-87 over Missouri, 15 Big 12/8 regular season titles, and was coached by James Naismith, Phog Allen, Larry Brown, and Roy Williams.

Missouri has 0 final four, 0 titles, 8 big 12/8 regular season titles, and Norm Stewart, congratulations, that's what I call tradition.

[AJKCFAN]

I just listened in to the Snyder-South Carolina phone call. Here's how it went:

South Carolina University:

"Hello. Coach Snyder. This is South Carolina University. We'd like to know..... (click) Hello? Hello? Coach Snyder?"

South Carolina should set their sights a wee bit lower than the mighty Q. I'm not saying Quinn will lay roots here and stay at Mizzou for 30 years a la Norm Stewart because he won't... but there's NO WAY Quinn Snyder is leaving the Mizzou program two years in... especially when this team has "Sweet Sixteen & Beyond written all over it"...

[AJKCFAN]

Kansas had a 50+ year head start on tradition. You can't bring up a 150-87 head to head mark. Why not go back 20 years (1981-2000) and tell the gang what Kansas-Missouri head to head has been like (Including Conference Tournament play). I sure would like to know those results. I'll go so far as to say that Mizzou has a better head-to-head mark over Kansas over the past 20 years.

I mean, K-State football sucks compared to Nebraska, but over the last 5 years, there's not much of a difference.

[ChiTown]

chiefsfan

Congrats for being a fan of one of the best college basketball traditions. But, quite frankly, who gives a shit about what you think tradition means. Your opinion is just that, your opinion. I'm no Mizzou alum, but I can tell you that they have some of the best fans in college sports, and they have certainly supported their team through both good and bad.

I'm always amazed that people such as yourself have such a hard time with your ego, such that you can't just be proud of your teams accomplishments without bagging on others.

ChiTown
~'89 grad of KSU

[Edited by ChiTown on 03-20-2001 at 03:51 PM]

[MrBlond]

mu has no tradition. KU has won a National Title in my lifetime. mu has been in what? 1 sweet sixteen? ever? KU has a winning record against mu lifetime 150 to 87. We have won more Big 6 championships, Big 7 championships, big 8 championships, and Big 12 championships. More sweet sixteen appearences, elite 8 appearences, final four appearences, championship appearences, and championship wins. We have more conference tourney championships. More All-Americans, more NBA 1st round draft choices, more college Hall of Famers, NBA Hall of Famers. We have better songs, uniforms, cheerleaders, coaches, colors, arena, fans, campus, alumni, mascots, and hairstyles. By this time next week we may be in another final four while the Mighty Quin furiously recruits in an effort to catch up. Rock Chalk Jayhawk KU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ChiefsFanatic]

I think MU has great fans. Some of the best entertainment arguing I have evr had has been with MU fans. But with smart, intelligent fans that know sports, not fans can't recognize that KU has traditionally been better than MU in basketball.

Even without a Championship in the 90s, they are still one of the premier college basketball programs in the country. MU could have been a power sooner, but Norm was not the best recruiter, and MU was loyal to him (and for good reason.)

Anyone who thinks that Snyder won't even listen to S. Carolina has their head in the sand. He is too smart to burn bridges and lock doors so early in his coaching career. Who knows, S. Carolina's AD may someday be the AD at Duke. He did attend Duke. Why would Quin not give him the courtesy of at least entertaining his offers?

[chiefsfan]

chitown, I didn't start this thread, I was replying to what the MU fans have been saying(and not just what they've said in this thread or even this board for that matter). Most of the time it's Missouri fans that start bagging on KU, haven't you noticed that they always seem to post something after KU loses, and are no where to be found when they win?

To ajkcfan, sorry but you're wrong, KU leads the series 24-20 in games played since 1981. Actually it's in the 80's where Missouri does it's best against KU, but that was 10 years ago so I guess we can't count that huh?

If you want to talk about the last 10 years then, KU has been to 12 straight tournaments, 2 final fours, and 7 sweet sixteens. MU has made the tournament 3 years in a row, has no final fours obviously, and has maybe 1 or 2 sweet 16's(sorry I don't know MU's entire history), so I don't think that's anywhere near to the Kstate-Nebraska rivalry in football like you were trying to say.

[chiefsfan]

I think Mr. Blond's post pretty much sums it up.