KU **** OFFICIAL 2012 Kansas Football Repository Thread **** - Page 74

ArrowheadHawk · 09:53 AM

New Coach, New year, new thread.

Sat, Sept. 1 SDSU at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS at 6:00p.m. CT Jayhawk IMG TV Network

Sat, Sept. 8 Rice at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS FSN at 2:30p.m. CT Fox Sports Net

Sat, Sept. 15 TCU at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS at 11:00a.m. CT FX

Sat, Sept. 22 Kansas at No. Illinois
DeKalb, Illinois

Sat, Oct. 6 Kansas at Kansas State Bill Snyder Family Stadium
Manhattan, KS

Sat, Oct. 13 Okla. St. at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS

Sat, Oct. 20 Kansas at Oklahoma Oklahoma Memorial Stadium
Norman, OK

Sat, Oct. 27 Texas at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS

Sat, Nov. 3 Kansas at Baylor Floyd Casey Stadium
Waco, TX

Sat, Nov. 10 Kansas at TT Jones AT&T Stadium
Lubbock, TX

Sat, Nov. 17 Iowa State at Kansas Memorial Stadium
Lawrence, KS

Sat, Dec. 1 Kansas at West Virginia
Morgantown, W.V.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 12-12-2011, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Call it a 'meh' hiring if you want to, but there are a ton of things on his resume that would make me take pause. Especially when you're asking him to operate as the CEO of a BCS level team.

Quoting this for future reference. DJ admiting KU is a BCS level team.

**Saulbadguy** · 12-12-2011, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke

Quoting this for future reference. DJ admiting KU is a BCS level team.

They are in a BCS conference, are they not?

DJ's left nut · 12-12-2011, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke

Quoting this for future reference. DJ admiting KU is a BCS level team.

They play in a BCS conference, no?

They may not play like one, but like it or not, KU is a BCS program.

Maybe they should drop down to the FCS to get some confidence, then petition to be let back in after a decade or so. That might actually work out for them.

Bambi · 12-12-2011, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

They play in a BCS conference, no?

They may not play like one, but like it or not, KU is a BCS program.

Maybe they should drop down to the FCS to get some confidence, then petition to be let back in after a decade or so. That might actually work out for them.

Or just stumble in to the Booth Hall of Athletics and look at the BCS trophy they have.

Either way would probably work.

DJ's left nut · 12-12-2011, 12:20 PM

Pro: Charlie Weis evidently hated Matt Cassel.

So he's definitely a better hire than Todd Haley would have been. Congrats on dodging that bullet.

Silock · 12-12-2011, 12:33 PM

Yes, Weis had his problems in the past as a HC at the BCS level. However, I think he's learned from what he did wrong, and that's the most important thing. He's saying all the right things and hopefully has learned his lesson so that he can be successful at KU.

Mr. Plow · 12-12-2011, 02:01 PM

http://www2.kusports.com/news/2011/d...ng-ku-already/

Charlie Weis recruiting to KU already

The Charlie Weis Era may be just a couple of days old, but, already, the Kansas University football program has seen a change in how recruiting is handled under its new head coach.

In short, it seems no fish is too big to fry for Weis, who has wasted little time in targeting some big-name talent to join him in Lawrence.

It’s a well-known fact that Weis is in the hunt for former five-star quarterback prospect Dayne Crist, a senior at Notre Dame who visited KU over the weekend and reportedly is down to deciding between Kansas and Wisconsin. Crist, who has one year of eligibility remaining, will graduate this month and has said he plans to transfer for his final season. Because of NCAA rules, the 6-foot-4, 235-pound pro-style QB will be eligible immediately.

Weis also has extended scholarship offers in the last couple of days to South Bend, Ind., wide receiver Gehrig Dieter, 6-3, 200; Bishop Miege running back Tre Parmalee, 5-10, 160; Tampa (Fla.) linebacker Schyler Miles, 6-2, 220; and Butler County CC defensive tackle Chaquil Reed, 6-3, 290.

Reed has interest from K-State and Minnesota, and Miles has offers from Cincinnati, Florida and West Virginia. Crist, whom Weis recruited to Notre Dame, chose the Fighting Irish over Florida State, Michigan, Nebraska, Stanford and USC.

While Weis made it clear that he would not shy away from going after the best players he can find, a determining factor in how he shapes his first recruiting class at KU likely will be how many scholarships he has available.

“The big question with me is, there aren’t a lot of seniors on the roster,” Weis said. “Therefore, there aren’t a lot of spots for recruits. What you have to figure out is what that number will be, so you can recruit the appropriate number of people.”

Prior to being fired, former KU coach Turner Gill had locked up eight oral commitments from athletes in the Class of 2012. A couple of them have bailed, and a few remain committed to KU. Weis figures at least to visit with each of them, and there already have been rumors circulating about a handful of current Jayhawks ready to transfer. That’s no surprise to Weis.

“Anytime a new coach comes in, I would say the natural attrition is 10 to 15 players,” he said. “This is everywhere. When people say, ‘So-and-so came in, and 12 guys transferred,’ every other coach, when they go in, the same thing happens. The same thing happened my first year at Notre Dame. I think 13 guys left in the first year.”

The departure of some players often is matched by the arrival of others, and Weis said the important part was figuring out quickly who would stay and who would go so he could hit the recruiting trail with a better idea of what he needed.

“I don’t want to undersign,” he said. “I don’t want to go out there and sign 15 guys if I can sign 25 guys. I also don’t want to take people just for numbers. You want to take guys that fit what (we) need.”

When Weis arrived at Notre Dame in 2005, he inherited a recruiting class that was ranked 40th in the country by Rivals.com. Notre Dame’s next four recruiting classes all ranked in the Top 21, including three straight hauls in the top eight, and the 2008 class ranked second.

While those numbers can be explained partly by Notre Dame’s status as a football powerhouse, the head coach’s reputation likely had something to do with it.

Similar results may be tough to duplicate at Kansas, but since taking the job, Weis has seemed determined to try.

“I’ll hire you a top staff. They’ve given me the resources to do that,” Weis told the Allen Fieldhouse crowd during Saturday’s basketball game. “I’ll get on the road and pound it on recruiting to supplement our team.”

Perhaps his biggest advantage in his quest to repeat history?

“I have knowledge that I didn’t have last time,” Weis said, “which makes things a lot easier going forward.”

Fansy the Famous Bard · 12-12-2011, 02:08 PM

Well, there's a rumor that Grunny is coming to KU as a position coach... No official reports yet, just an unconfirmed internet rumor that is more than likely false.

DJ's left nut · 12-12-2011, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke

Well, there's a rumor that Grunny is coming to KU as a position coach... No official reports yet, just an unconfirmed internet rumor that is more than likely false.

Might not be BS. Grunny was in the running for a Line job when Weis was at ND. Or maybe it was a strength and conditioning job.

He interviewed for a gig out there and I think I remember he turned it down due to the instability.

Weis could very well be looking at him again.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 12-12-2011, 02:16 PM

Bilal Marshal has switched his commitment from KU to Purdue.

Bambi · 12-12-2011, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke

Bilal Marshal has switched his commitment from KU to Purdue.

Too bad. I was interested in seeing what this kid could do. I'll be checking in on him at Purdue.

When you switch coaches you will also be switching a lot of players.

I don't know why kids commit to coaches though. You should commit to the school. Coaching changes can happen way too often nowadays.

Fritz88 · 12-12-2011, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Wickedson

I don't know why kids commit to coaches though. You should commit to the school.

Not sure if serious.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 12-12-2011, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wickedson

Too bad. I was interested in seeing what this kid could do. I'll be checking in on him at Purdue.

When you switch coaches you will also be switching a lot of players.

I don't know why kids commit to coaches though. You should commit to the school. Coaching changes can happen way too often nowadays.

In the kids defense, Weis is quoted as wanting to run the same style "offense" he ran at ND. This is a pro-style offense and a run-first QB isn't the ideal skillset. He was one of 2 QB recruits already commited and Weis is going after a more pro-styled QB in Crist as his first action at KU. Meaning the writing is on the wall.

I don't blame the kid at all.

**Saul Good** · 12-12-2011, 03:04 PM

What do Kansas fans think about Crist versus Webb? Do you think its worth bringing in a Senior transfer for just one year?

That seems like a bad idea to me, but maybe he knows the offense well enough to be a coach on the field.

Fritz88 · 12-12-2011, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Saul Good

What do Kansas fans think about Crist versus Webb? Do you think its worth bringing in a Senior transfer for just one year?

That seems like a bad idea to me, but maybe he knows the offense well enough to be a coach on the field.

I'll roll with Crist regardless.

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12-12-2011, 12:20 PM	#1100
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Mr. Plow In Search of a Life Join Date: Dec 2005 Casino cash: $1997391	http://www2.kusports.com/news/2011/d...ng-ku-already/ Charlie Weis recruiting to KU already The Charlie Weis Era may be just a couple of days old, but, already, the Kansas University football program has seen a change in how recruiting is handled under its new head coach. In short, it seems no fish is too big to fry for Weis, who has wasted little time in targeting some big-name talent to join him in Lawrence. It’s a well-known fact that Weis is in the hunt for former five-star quarterback prospect Dayne Crist, a senior at Notre Dame who visited KU over the weekend and reportedly is down to deciding between Kansas and Wisconsin. Crist, who has one year of eligibility remaining, will graduate this month and has said he plans to transfer for his final season. Because of NCAA rules, the 6-foot-4, 235-pound pro-style QB will be eligible immediately. Weis also has extended scholarship offers in the last couple of days to South Bend, Ind., wide receiver Gehrig Dieter, 6-3, 200; Bishop Miege running back Tre Parmalee, 5-10, 160; Tampa (Fla.) linebacker Schyler Miles, 6-2, 220; and Butler County CC defensive tackle Chaquil Reed, 6-3, 290. Reed has interest from K-State and Minnesota, and Miles has offers from Cincinnati, Florida and West Virginia. Crist, whom Weis recruited to Notre Dame, chose the Fighting Irish over Florida State, Michigan, Nebraska, Stanford and USC. While Weis made it clear that he would not shy away from going after the best players he can find, a determining factor in how he shapes his first recruiting class at KU likely will be how many scholarships he has available. “The big question with me is, there aren’t a lot of seniors on the roster,” Weis said. “Therefore, there aren’t a lot of spots for recruits. What you have to figure out is what that number will be, so you can recruit the appropriate number of people.” Prior to being fired, former KU coach Turner Gill had locked up eight oral commitments from athletes in the Class of 2012. A couple of them have bailed, and a few remain committed to KU. Weis figures at least to visit with each of them, and there already have been rumors circulating about a handful of current Jayhawks ready to transfer. That’s no surprise to Weis. “Anytime a new coach comes in, I would say the natural attrition is 10 to 15 players,” he said. “This is everywhere. When people say, ‘So-and-so came in, and 12 guys transferred,’ every other coach, when they go in, the same thing happens. The same thing happened my first year at Notre Dame. I think 13 guys left in the first year.” The departure of some players often is matched by the arrival of others, and Weis said the important part was figuring out quickly who would stay and who would go so he could hit the recruiting trail with a better idea of what he needed. “I don’t want to undersign,” he said. “I don’t want to go out there and sign 15 guys if I can sign 25 guys. I also don’t want to take people just for numbers. You want to take guys that fit what (we) need.” When Weis arrived at Notre Dame in 2005, he inherited a recruiting class that was ranked 40th in the country by Rivals.com. Notre Dame’s next four recruiting classes all ranked in the Top 21, including three straight hauls in the top eight, and the 2008 class ranked second. While those numbers can be explained partly by Notre Dame’s status as a football powerhouse, the head coach’s reputation likely had something to do with it. Similar results may be tough to duplicate at Kansas, but since taking the job, Weis has seemed determined to try. “I’ll hire you a top staff. They’ve given me the resources to do that,” Weis told the Allen Fieldhouse crowd during Saturday’s basketball game. “I’ll get on the road and pound it on recruiting to supplement our team.” Perhaps his biggest advantage in his quest to repeat history? “I have knowledge that I didn’t have last time,” Weis said, “which makes things a lot easier going forward.”
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12-12-2011, 03:04 PM	#1109
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