The Hobbit

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Finally saw it today. I loved it. If you're a fan of LOTR, you'll love it. If you're not, you won't. It's really that simple.

For me, it's more time in Middle Earth, and that's a very good thing.

I disagree here. I enjoyed it, but I didn't love it. I thought I was a pretty big step down from any of the three LOTR films, and that's partly due to the complete destruction of my willing suspension of disbelief. I can get past these people falling great distances and not being completely broken, but can we get at least some scratches? It was a little overlong, and the pacing was a bit off. A lot of the toilet humor felt forced and out of place.

The casting was outstanding, though, and for the most part the effects were top notch (there's one shot of the Brown Wizard guy on the rabbit sled leading the orcs on a chase that had ridiculously bad FX).

Again, overall I enjoyed the movie, and I'll see the next ones. But it wasn't what I'd hoped, and it wasn't what I expected.

My 2 cents.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

I disagree here. I enjoyed it, but I didn't love it. I thought I was a pretty big step down from any of the three LOTR films, and that's partly due to the complete destruction of my willing suspension of disbelief. I can get past these people falling great distances and not being completely broken, but can we get at least some scratches? It was a little overlong, and the pacing was a bit off. A lot of the toilet humor felt forced and out of place.

The casting was outstanding, though, and for the most part the effects were top notch (there's one shot of the Brown Wizard guy on the rabbit sled leading the orcs on a chase that had ridiculously bad FX).

Again, overall I enjoyed the movie, and I'll see the next ones. But it wasn't what I'd hoped, and it wasn't what I expected.

My 2 cents.

I fully agree with this one....I didn't LOVE it like LOTR movies but it was entertaining. Some of the over the top BS kinda annoyed me but I hope the next 2 are better. I understand why its getting good reviews vs excellent

[Sure-Oz]

Saw it yesterday,. Pretty solid and entertaining. Seemsl like LOTR lite of course. Some over the top shit so far.

[Chiefs=Champions]

I loved it. It captured the book well and goes away from the seriousness of the lotr films a bit

[Aspengc8]

Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good

I loved it. It captured the book well and goes away from the seriousness of the lotr films a bit

It actually drifted away from the book on quite a few things...

Spoiler!

In the Battle of Azanulbizar, Azog is not killed by Dáin (who appears to be absent in this first film). Instead he fights Thorin Oakenshield after beheading Thror. During the duel, Thorin cuts off Azog's left arm and the Orc army flees, dragging their wounded leader with them back inside Moria. Thorin later believes Azog to have died from his wounds. This is not how it happens in the book.. at all. Also the scene where they encounter the Goblin King has Gandalf disemboweling him when in the book is killed when Gandalf's magic 'flash' saves them.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Aspengc8

It actually drifted away from the book on quite a few things...

Spoiler!

In the Battle of Azanulbizar, Azog is not killed by Dáin (who appears to be absent in this first film). Instead he fights Thorin Oakenshield after beheading Thror. During the duel, Thorin cuts off Azog's left arm and the Orc army flees, dragging their wounded leader with them back inside Moria. Thorin later believes Azog to have died from his wounds. This is not how it happens in the book.. at all. Also the scene where they encounter the Goblin King has Gandalf disemboweling him when in the book is killed when Gandalf's magic 'flash' saves them.

I am currently reading The Hobbit. It seems that the Gandalf in the books is not as much of a bad a$$ as the way he is portrayed in the LOTR movies. Not that he is weak or anything, but not nearly as powerful and confident. Of course, I have yet to see the movie, The Hobbit. I also haven't read TLOTR but plan to read it in the near future. So take that with a grain of salt, I guess.

[WV]

Originally Posted by Lzen

I am currently reading The Hobbit. It seems that the Gandalf in the books is not as much of a bad a$$ as the way he is portrayed in the LOTR movies. Not that he is weak or anything, but not nearly as powerful and confident. Of course, I have yet to see the movie, The Hobbit. I also haven't read TLOTR but plan to read it in the near future. So take that with a grain of salt, I guess.

Gandalf is still a "young wizard" in the Hobbit and definitely gets better in LOTR books. At least that's the way I saw it.

[Amnorix]

Originally Posted by Lzen

I am currently reading The Hobbit. It seems that the Gandalf in the books is not as much of a bad a$$ as the way he is portrayed in the LOTR movies. Not that he is weak or anything, but not nearly as powerful and confident. Of course, I have yet to see the movie, The Hobbit. I also haven't read TLOTR but plan to read it in the near future. So take that with a grain of salt, I guess.

Originally Posted by WV

Gandalf is still a "young wizard" in the Hobbit and definitely gets better in LOTR books. At least that's the way I saw it.

It's difficult to reconcile them, really. The books are written differently with different audiences in mind.

It's not really age. Gandalf is a Maia, he's waaaaaay old. The 60 years or whatever between the events of the Hobbit and the events of LoTR would be like saying a guy who is 60 years and 3 months is older than when he was 60 years and 2 months. Well, yeah, but...

[Frosty]

I saw this last Sunday. We saw it in 2D. I don't know if it was the theater we saw it or what, but there were some scenes that were just a mess of blur, particularly the opening scene with Smaug's attack. I want to see it now in 3D HFR to compare.

I loved the movie, though. The scene that everyone is complaining about didn't bother me. Anyone who follows fantasy knows that dwarves are nearly indestructible. They also had a wizard along that could have done something to soften the blow.

As others have mentioned, it sucks that I have to wait a year for the next one to come out.

[mr. tegu]

Spoiler!

Perhaps it is in the book or I missed it in the movie, but why is Gandalf so intent on helping the dwarves get their place back? And why wasn't he helping them when the dragon took the mountain in the first place if he is such a supporter of theirs?

[HolyHandgernade]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Spoiler!

Perhaps it is in the book or I missed it in the movie, but why is Gandalf so intent on helping the dwarves get their place back? And why wasn't he helping them when the dragon took the mountain in the first place if he is such a supporter of theirs?

Spoiler!

Gandalf cannot simply appear anywhere he wants to be and apparently was not in the area when Smaug launched his surprise attack. He is not impervious to harm either, and attacking a dragon takes quite a bit of punch to accomplish. Gandalf suspects there are larger forces at play and is concerned that Smaug could be used as an agent of this darker force. Gandalf is trying to stir support for his belief in this new darker force, and helping the Dwarves recover their home would set up an effective shield should war come to the Northern part of Middle Earth, which it does.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by HolyHandgernade

Spoiler!

Gandalf cannot simply appear anywhere he wants to be and apparently was not in the area when Smaug launched his surprise attack. He is not impervious to harm either, and attacking a dragon takes quite a bit of punch to accomplish. Gandalf suspects there are larger forces at play and is concerned that Smaug could be used as an agent of this darker force. Gandalf is trying to stir support for his belief in this new darker force, and helping the Dwarves recover their home would set up an effective shield should war come to the Northern part of Middle Earth, which it does.

Thanks! That makes sense.

[Silock]

This movie was way too long. The pacing for the next two is going to blow ass, too.

That said, I really enjoyed it.

[Hammock Parties]

Hahahaha. You can never make these movies long enough.

[Crush]

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Hahahaha. You can never make these movies long enough.

Indeed. I was extremely disappointed that it ended.