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Old 04-16-2013, 02:01 PM  
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Teicher tweeting the Oline alignment today....

With Albert out they lined up like this.

@adamteicher: Starting OL, L to R: stephenson, Allen, Hudson, Asamoah, Schwartz

Also, Moeaki was the only guy present but not participating. Ugh!
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:52 PM   #31
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I trust him on the bench until he proves in practice and in games that he's not a worthless piece of shit. pillowbiter.
Did you type out pillowbiter or the 3 letter F word that gets turned into that? Cracks me up.
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:53 PM   #32
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:54 PM   #33
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:54 PM   #34
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Interesting swap of Allen and Schwartz at LG and RT....

Hm. I think SNR was theorizing they might do that exact thing.

I've always believed how you end a practice is more important than how you begin it.

I think Joeckel, Schwartz, Hudson, Asamoah, and Allen may be the line...
Neither Allen nor Joeckel are beating out Stephenson for the right tackle spot once Albert shows up.
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:54 PM   #35
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they need a vocal/leader that's a LBer in the worst way
Arthur Brown, come on down...

AJ Klein is another great leadership guy.

Vince Williams is awesome. He's not the Manti Te'o nice guy leader, he's the asshole big mouth that gives other teams bulletin board material. Total Bart Scott type personality. I wish he was better, though.
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:55 PM   #36
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Neither Allen nor Joeckel are beating out Stephenson for the right tackle spot once Albert shows up.
Reeeeeeally.... you think so?

You think Stephenson showed that well last year, eh?

Edit: it's obvious that if we bring in Joeckel with Albert still on the roster, he will get auto-elevated to starting RT. And I'm willing to put a bet on the line for that if that comes to pass.
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:56 PM   #37
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Arthur Brown, come on down...

AJ Klein is another great leadership guy.

Vince Williams is awesome. He's not the Manti Te'o nice guy leader, he's the asshole big mouth that gives other teams bulletin board material. Total Bart Scott type personality. I wish he was better, though.
the problem is they need a 2nd round to get either guy

pissing away that 2nd rounder they are going to miss out on a run of a lot of good players that could help us while they sit on their thumbs and twist until the 3rd round
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:57 PM   #38
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You don't need a 2nd rounder for AJ Klein, most likely. He's probably a 3rd to 5th rounder.

Just FYI.

Vince Williams you can have in the 6th or 7th. He might even go UDFA.
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:57 PM   #39
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Reeeeeeally.... you think so?

You think Stephenson showed that well last year, eh?

Edit: it's obvious that if we bring in Joeckel with Albert still on the roster, he will get auto-elevated to starting RT. And I'm willing to put a bet on the line for that if that comes to pass.
Stephenson is huge and we have coach that played god awful RTs like King Dunlap and Winston Justice just because they were big with no experience, and they got beat like a drum all year long and he still left them in to suck
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Old 04-16-2013, 03:58 PM   #40
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Practice is over. A couple of notes: Chiefs later shuffled OL and lined up this way left to right . . .

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Stephenson, Schwartz, Hudson, Asamoah, Allen. Remember that Allen played tackle in college at Illinois. Hudson looked fine, BTW
That makes more sense.
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Old 04-16-2013, 04:01 PM   #41
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Reeeeeeally.... you think so?

You think Stephenson showed that well last year, eh?
Yep.

And I think he would be in the conversation as the first tackle off the board in this draft class had he stayed for his senior season. He was markedly better than Lane Johnson his junior year.

He's got excellent feet, is very athletic for a guy of his size and keeps his guy in front of him. (Go look at his combine numbers. His burst numbers are ridiculous for an offensive lineman.)

He was thrown into the games last season because of injury after getting zero reps with the first team and while he got beat at times, he also showed good mechanics and footwork and beat his guy as well.

I'd be shocked if the offensive line didn't look like this come the first regular season game:

LT: Albert
RG: Schwartz
C: Hudson
RG: Asamoah
RT: Stephenson
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Stephenson is huge and we have coach that played god awful RTs like King Dunlap and Winston Justice just because they were big with no experience, and they got beat like a drum all year long and he still left them in to suck
Not what I'd call a sturdy argument, there.

By that logic, you can pencil in Geoff Schwartz as our next RT.
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Old 04-16-2013, 04:05 PM   #43
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Yep.

And I think he would be in the conversation as the first tackle off the board in this draft class had he stayed for his senior season. He was markedly better than Lane Johnson his junior year.

He's got excellent feet, is very athletic for a guy of his size and keeps his guy in front of him. (Go look at his combine numbers. His burst numbers are ridiculous for an offensive lineman.)

He was thrown into the games last season because of injury after getting zero reps with the first team and while he got beat at times, he also showed good mechanics and footwork and beat his guy as well.

I'd be shocked if the offensive line didn't look like this come the first regular season game:

LT: Albert
RG: Schwartz
C: Hudson
RG: Asamoah
RT: Stephenson
You'd be "shocked" if we traded Albert and drafted Joeckel/Fisher?

Needless to say, I hope you do not have a heart condition...

I agree on Stephenson, except for the hilarious assertion that he'd be a Top 10 pick in this draft. He did not play too well last year but I don't hold that against him, blocking for Brady Quinn and Brian Daboll's hobbled offense in his rookie year is not condemning. I thought he looked like a starting caliber RT to me was on the horizon, and a good LT patch if need be.

Good value for a 3rd rounder. I've made this claim before, but we really were a Top 5 drafting team during *****'s tenure. Folks hate to hear that but there it is.

Beating out Allen and Schwartz at RT seems reasonable for him. Beating out Joeckel or especially Fisher at RT? Crazy talk.
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Old 04-16-2013, 04:17 PM   #44
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You'd be "shocked" if we traded Albert and drafted Joeckel/Fisher?

Needless to say, I hope you do not have a heart condition...

I agree on Stephenson, except for the hilarious assertion that he'd be a Top 10 pick in this draft. He did not play too well last year but I don't hold that against him, blocking for Brady Quinn and Brian Daboll's hobbled offense in his rookie year is not condemning. I thought he looked like a starting caliber RT to me was on the horizon, and a good LT patch if need be.

Good value for a 3rd rounder. I've made this claim before, but we really were a Top 5 drafting team during *****'s tenure. Folks hate to hear that but there it is.

Beating out Allen and Schwartz at RT seems reasonable for him. Beating out Joeckel or especially Fisher at RT? Crazy talk.
Well, there is the hilarious assertion that Luke Joeckel is going to be a Top 10 pick in this years draft and he wasn't even the best tackle on his college team. There is also the hilarious assertion that Lane Johnson might be a Top 10 pick in this years draft and I guarantee you that Don Stephenson was a metric shit ton better than Johnson on the same team in the same class (Don declared a year early).

Stephenson has prototype size, very good feet and hands and had substantially better combine numbers than Joeckel or Fisher.

Yeah, I'm pretty darn sure he'd be in the conversation had he stayed for his senior year.
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Not what I'd call a sturdy argument, there.

By that logic, you can pencil in Geoff Schwartz as our next RT.
it doesnt matter if its Schwartz, Allen or Stephenson at RT. you are getting a RT that lacks experience no matter how you slice it and by game 5 it will make fans wishing we still had Winston either way. None of them are going to come close to locking down the position and Alex Smith will be taking 50 sacks easy
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