Who would make the best pres? - Page 3

**Bwana** · 09-08-2000, 10:19 AM

Who do you think would be the best choice for President of the US?

Granted, I don't think anyone would agree that either of the choices we have would be the best choice out there? And try to state a reason as to why you would think he/she would be the one.

For those of you who like Gore check this link out:
[url="http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2000/9/7/223905"]http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2000/9/7/223905[/url]

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**Bwana** · 09-08-2000, 01:08 PM

It would truely be nice if the bills would only have one or two items, and eliminate the tag-on crap.

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Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan · 09-08-2000, 01:10 PM

bkkcoh,

Now that would be true legislative reform ~ eliminate the omnibus bills.

Our elected officials, however, would then need to spend MUCH more time actually making decisions!

Luz
what a concept!...<BR>

**Bwana** · 09-08-2000, 01:14 PM

Luzap,

But it is so much easier to make a vague bill that doesn't make the difficult choices. Also, I would like to see the baseline budgeting crap end and the representation (or understanding) that a 5% increase in spending instead of 7% increase is not a 2% decrease. What idiots taught math the reporters to get them to understand it that way.

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**Bwana** · 09-08-2000, 01:25 PM

Luzap,

I would like to really be able to understand the reasoning for not having a tax cut for everyone. It is not an inflationary process, the money would just be going back to the rightful owners. But Clinton said, that he new better what to do with the excess than we did. What a slap to the intelligence of the people of the USA.

Also, I saw the Fox News channel when they were asking why would it cost $700.00 a month to insure children that didn't have insurance. Hell, when I was paying for COBRA, it was only costing $530 a month for a family of 5. The spokesman could not explain why it was soooo expensive. That really pi**ed me off.

bk
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NaptownChief · 09-08-2000, 01:37 PM

Luz:

The reality is-- and if you pay attention you know it already-- that the candidate's stands on the issues are just well formulated spins based on the overnight polling. Bush and Gore are both for whatever combination 51% of the electorate agrees on. Whoever finds that formula first wins. Then they'll get into the Whitehouse and our disgrace of a congress (no matter who has the majority) will stall and distract until the next President comes along. Thus, the key to the Presidency anymore is what he can do without the consent of congress, which isn't a whole lot. From an ideological standpoint, I favor Gore because he's more likely to appoint judges and agency heads, etc. that are more in line with my moderate way of thinking. But don't fool yourself-- the issues these guys pretend to care about are a smoke screen. They know none of the biggies will ever get solved because political courage in this country died years ago.

Logical · 09-08-2000, 01:44 PM

You know this is one of the reasons I don't visit the star BB all that much anymore. All the non football related threads. But just the same lord help us all if Gore is elected. He'll finish off the military as an effective fighting force FWIW, And I envision a whole slew of gun laws coming down the pike. Nope I've always voted Republican but I am seriously concidering becoming a Libertarian. [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]

elvislivesinkc · 09-08-2000, 01:53 PM

My taxes have never dropped at all. Ever. Even if by some miracle taxes are reduced, you will have the money taken from you in another way. The govt., no matter who is in control, isn't about to try and make due with less.

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Kckrazy · 09-08-2000, 01:56 PM

Donk,

Good to hear that you are at least a moderate...However, you have been badly fooled if you think Gore is anywhere near your territory...If he leaned any further left he would have to give his speeches laying down.

elvislivesinkc · 09-08-2000, 02:00 PM

I still absolutely cannot believe that anyone thinks there is a nickel's worth of difference between these 2 jerkoffs.

Just curious: How much influence do you think the oil industry would have over Bush, as opposed to a President that wasn't involved in the industry prior to being elected?

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shakesthecat · 09-08-2000, 02:05 PM

Clint-

Here's how to decide between them if you despise them both:

Who do you want appointing Supreme Court justices?

xoxo~
gaz
reluctantly voting for Bush.<BR>

NaptownChief · 09-08-2000, 02:09 PM

Gaz said it best. However, in the same light, I'll reluctantly vote for Gore. I believe our founding fathers were liberal in their intentions.

shakesthecat · 09-08-2000, 02:11 PM

Drew-

Since we are going to cancel each other out, we might as well stay home on election day.

xoxo~
gaz
saved himself a trip to the poll.<BR>

Traveller · 09-08-2000, 02:16 PM

You're entitled to your opinion Drew but think about this.

Jefferson's model was a state oriented govt with very limited powers given to the federal branch. His vision was a responsive local govt handeling the day to day with the fed govt dealing mainly with foreign issues and little domestic. His biggest supporters were Thomas Paine and John Adams.

That's a polar opposite of Gores and the Demo vision.

NaptownChief · 09-08-2000, 02:16 PM

Except its those electoral votes these guys need. Not the measley individual ones we provide.

nmt1 · 09-08-2000, 02:17 PM

I think we're screwed either way.

I heard a story about Bush, where his daughter was involved in a fender-bender. Bush not only sued the driver of the other car, but allegedly sued the rental car company of the car that his daughter was driving. All this over a tiny accident where no one was hurt! Bush refuses to justify the frivolous suits because of his policy of not discussing issues regarding his family. Sounds like an a-hole to me. Has anyone else heard this story? I caught it on Austin talk radio (not too reliable really).

Is Gore any better? Probably not.

I really don't care about the pres, as long he isn't a damn Chiefs fan!!!!!

09-08-2000, 01:08 PM	#31
Bwana It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Billings, Montana Casino cash: $2139563647	It would truely be nice if the bills would only have one or two items, and eliminate the tag-on crap. ------------------ bk
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09-08-2000, 01:10 PM	#32
Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan I am Number Six Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Columbia, MD, USA Casino cash: $1989000	bkkcoh, Now that would be true legislative reform ~ eliminate the omnibus bills. Our elected officials, however, would then need to spend MUCH more time actually making decisions! Luz what a concept!...<BR>
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09-08-2000, 01:14 PM	#33
Bwana It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Billings, Montana Casino cash: $2139563647	Luzap, But it is so much easier to make a vague bill that doesn't make the difficult choices. Also, I would like to see the baseline budgeting crap end and the representation (or understanding) that a 5% increase in spending instead of 7% increase is not a 2% decrease. What idiots taught math the reporters to get them to understand it that way. ------------------ bk
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09-08-2000, 01:25 PM	#34
Bwana It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Billings, Montana Casino cash: $2139563647	Luzap, I would like to really be able to understand the reasoning for not having a tax cut for everyone. It is not an inflationary process, the money would just be going back to the rightful owners. But Clinton said, that he new better what to do with the excess than we did. What a slap to the intelligence of the people of the USA. Also, I saw the Fox News channel when they were asking why would it cost $700.00 a month to insure children that didn't have insurance. Hell, when I was paying for COBRA, it was only costing $530 a month for a family of 5. The spokesman could not explain why it was soooo expensive. That really pi**ed me off. bk would know what to do with $1400 more.... [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img] [This message has been edited by bkkcoh (edited 09-08-2000).]
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09-08-2000, 01:37 PM	#35
NaptownChief Football Pimp Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indianapolis,IN Casino cash: $9974900	Luz: The reality is-- and if you pay attention you know it already-- that the candidate's stands on the issues are just well formulated spins based on the overnight polling. Bush and Gore are both for whatever combination 51% of the electorate agrees on. Whoever finds that formula first wins. Then they'll get into the Whitehouse and our disgrace of a congress (no matter who has the majority) will stall and distract until the next President comes along. Thus, the key to the Presidency anymore is what he can do without the consent of congress, which isn't a whole lot. From an ideological standpoint, I favor Gore because he's more likely to appoint judges and agency heads, etc. that are more in line with my moderate way of thinking. But don't fool yourself-- the issues these guys pretend to care about are a smoke screen. They know none of the biggies will ever get solved because political courage in this country died years ago.
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09-08-2000, 10:19 AM
Bwana It's Five O'Clock Somewhere Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Billings, Montana Casino cash: $2139563647	Who do you think would be the best choice for President of the US? Granted, I don't think anyone would agree that either of the choices we have would be the best choice out there? And try to state a reason as to why you would think he/she would be the one. For those of you who like Gore check this link out: [url="http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2000/9/7/223905"]http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2000/9/7/223905[/url] ------------------ bk [This message has been edited by bkkcoh (edited 09-08-2000).]
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09-08-2000, 01:44 PM	#36
Logical Screw U if U can't take a joke Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	You know this is one of the reasons I don't visit the star BB all that much anymore. All the non football related threads. But just the same lord help us all if Gore is elected. He'll finish off the military as an effective fighting force FWIW, And I envision a whole slew of gun laws coming down the pike. Nope I've always voted Republican but I am seriously concidering becoming a Libertarian. [img]http://www.ChiefsPlanet.com/ubb/smile.gif[/img]
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09-08-2000, 01:53 PM	#37
elvislivesinkc Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: hollywood, ca 90028 Casino cash: $10004900	My taxes have never dropped at all. Ever. Even if by some miracle taxes are reduced, you will have the money taken from you in another way. The govt., no matter who is in control, isn't about to try and make due with less. ------------------ This is my signature!! There are many like it but this one is mine!!
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09-08-2000, 01:56 PM	#38
Kckrazy Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: La Junta, CO, 81050 Casino cash: $10004900	Donk, Good to hear that you are at least a moderate...However, you have been badly fooled if you think Gore is anywhere near your territory...If he leaned any further left he would have to give his speeches laying down.
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09-08-2000, 02:00 PM	#39
elvislivesinkc Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: hollywood, ca 90028 Casino cash: $10004900	I still absolutely cannot believe that anyone thinks there is a nickel's worth of difference between these 2 jerkoffs. Just curious: How much influence do you think the oil industry would have over Bush, as opposed to a President that wasn't involved in the industry prior to being elected? ------------------ This is my signature!! There are many like it but this one is mine!!
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09-08-2000, 02:05 PM	#40
shakesthecat Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: IA Casino cash: $4303833	Clint- Here's how to decide between them if you despise them both: Who do you want appointing Supreme Court justices? xoxo~ gaz reluctantly voting for Bush.<BR>
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09-08-2000, 02:09 PM	#41
NaptownChief Football Pimp Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Indianapolis,IN Casino cash: $9974900	Gaz said it best. However, in the same light, I'll reluctantly vote for Gore. I believe our founding fathers were liberal in their intentions.
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09-08-2000, 02:11 PM	#42
shakesthecat Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: IA Casino cash: $4303833	Drew- Since we are going to cancel each other out, we might as well stay home on election day. xoxo~ gaz saved himself a trip to the poll.<BR>
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09-08-2000, 02:16 PM	#43
Traveller Poker Face Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: SoCal Casino cash: $7631925	You're entitled to your opinion Drew but think about this. Jefferson's model was a state oriented govt with very limited powers given to the federal branch. His vision was a responsive local govt handeling the day to day with the fed govt dealing mainly with foreign issues and little domestic. His biggest supporters were Thomas Paine and John Adams. That's a polar opposite of Gores and the Demo vision.
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09-08-2000, 02:17 PM	#45
nmt1 Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	I think we're screwed either way. I heard a story about Bush, where his daughter was involved in a fender-bender. Bush not only sued the driver of the other car, but allegedly sued the rental car company of the car that his daughter was driving. All this over a tiny accident where no one was hurt! Bush refuses to justify the frivolous suits because of his policy of not discussing issues regarding his family. Sounds like an a-hole to me. Has anyone else heard this story? I caught it on Austin talk radio (not too reliable really). Is Gore any better? Probably not. I really don't care about the pres, as long he isn't a damn Chiefs fan!!!!!
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