Chiefs Did you over-react to the work of Scott Pioli? - Page 3

**jAZ** · 09-26-2010, 01:58 PM

There were a whole lot of people who lost patience with Scott Pioli starting after the hiring of Todd Haley and the 1st pick in the 2009 draft.

The Haley Hire sucked.
The Tyson Jackson pick sucked.
The Cassel/Vrabel trade sucked.
The whole 2009 Draft sucked.
Tamba Hali sucks.
The Dexter McCluster pick sucked.
The Tony Moeaki pick sucked.
The moves on the OL sucked.
The majority of the 2010 draft sucked.
Playing Thomas Jones so much sucks.

What else am I missing?

Mr. Arrowhead · 09-26-2010, 08:06 PM

there was alot of teams that missed out on the 2009 draft, because that was one of the less talented draft classes as whole.

beach tribe · 09-26-2010, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No, he did not.

It's been reported and linked time and again that Pioli used the reports compiled from the New England scouting department and trashed the Chiefs reports.

He NAILED the 2010 draft, and took a 2-14 team to 3-0 in 2 YEARS.

**** you.

I LOVED the draft and said so on draft day and defended the picks.

I've picked the Chiefs to win the past two weeks. In August, I didn't.

Wrong. And who the **** are you referring to, Dickhead?

Go **** yourself.

You're actually right Dane. You have touted the draft, and a lot of things that have been done. You have not been a Pioli basher ever since the draft,
I had actually just forgotten where you stand on this.
You have poured it on a few people, because of their optimism, but that's not the point when it comes to this post.

My apologies sir.

Pioli Zombie · 09-26-2010, 08:20 PM

After 5 games last year the Chiefs were 0-5 and had lost 28 of 30. Since then they are 7-7 and have won their last 4. I'd say that's some MFing progress.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-26-2010, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beach tribe

You're actually right Dane. You have touted the draft, and a lot of things that have been done. You have not been a Pioli basher ever since the draft,
I had actually just forgotten where you stand on this.
You have poured it on a few people, because of their optimism, but that's not the point when it comes to this post.

My apologies sir.

Thank you, my friend.

All the best!

Marcellus · 09-26-2010, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Bowe
Charles
Albert
Waters
Richardson
Dorsey
Edwards
Hali
Johnson
Flowers
Carr
McGraw
Colquitt

Then the backups..
Gillberry
Studebacker
Croyle
Cox
Williams

Show me a team that doesn't have a majority of the team left over from the previous regime 2 years later (really less than that so far).

See playmakers:

Arenas, McCluster, and Moeaki. As well as Berry, Lewis and Shaun Smith (FA).

No team, no team just shit cans it's roster and starts with 22 new starters.

This argument is ridiculous.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-26-2010, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Show me a team that doesn't have a majority of the team left over from the previous regime 2 years later (really less than that so far).

See playmakers:

Arenas, McCluster, and Moeaki. As well as Berry, Lewis and Shaun Smith (FA).

No team, no team just shit cans it's roster and starts with 22 new starters.

This argument is ridiculous.

You're like a broken record.

Detroit and Tampa Bay for starters.

Hammock Parties · 09-26-2010, 08:42 PM

The 2010 draft can't be declared a success just yet.

McCluster is exciting but he needs to become a consistent WR.

Moeaki has to stay healthy (the dude can clearly ball).

Berry has to become one of the top safeties in the NFL.

We'll see.

Marcellus · 09-26-2010, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're like a broken record.

Detroit and Tampa Bay for starters.

So you are saying Detroit and TB are better? They turned over their entire roster and look better?

Wrong.

Edit: You are arguing the poster not the post.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-26-2010, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoChiefs

The 2010 draft can't be declared a success just yet.

McCluster is exciting but he needs to become a consistent WR.

Moeaki has to stay healthy (the dude can clearly ball).

Berry has to become one of the top safeties in the NFL.

We'll see.

Compare the 2010 draft after three games to the 2009 draft after three games.

No ****ing comparison. Not EVEN close.

This draft class has been a VITAL part of the Chiefs success this season.

Take away the kicker and the 2009 class is invisible.

The idea that it takes "3 years to judge a draft class" is irrelevant bullshit in 2010.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-26-2010, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus

So you are saying Detroit and TB are better? They turned over their entire roster and look better?

Wrong.

Edit: You are arguing the poster not the post.

You're a ****ing idiot.

1. You moved the goalposts. First, your qualifier was as follows:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Show me a team that doesn't have a majority of the team left over from the previous regime 2 years later (really less than that so far).

2. NOW, your qualifier is "better"?

This has nothing to do with the poster and EVERYTHING to do with your bogus claims.

And FTR, Tampa Bay IS better. So is Detroit.

Playmakers? How about Stafford, Freeman, Williams or Best? Best has been OFF THE HOOK this season.

Get your story straight.

Marcellus · 09-26-2010, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're a ****ing idiot.

1. You moved the goalposts. First, your qualifier was as follows:

2. NOW, your qualifier is "better"?

This has nothing to do with the poster and EVERYTHING to do with your bogus claims.

And FTR, Tampa Bay IS better. So is Detroit.

Playmakers? How about Stafford, Freeman, Williams or Best? Best has been OFF THE HOOK this season.

Get your story straight.

Who moved the goalpost?

Most teams have most of the player left from the previous 2 years. As I said.

Yea Detroit is better than last year, yea TB may be better than last year.

Are they better than KC and did they change the majority of their starting 22?

You just named 4 players on 2 teams as play makers. I stated more than that on KC alone.

What?

Hammock Parties · 09-26-2010, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The idea that it takes "3 years to judge a draft class" is irrelevant bullshit in 2010.

It does drive that point home, certainly.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-26-2010, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Who moved the goalpost?

Most teams have most of the player left from the previous 2 years. As I said.

Yea Detroit is better than last year, yea TB may be better than last year.

Are they better than KC and did they change the majority of their starting 22?

You just named 4 players on 2 teams as play makers. I stated more than that on KC alone.

What?

Jesus ****ing Christ, are you bi-polar or otherwise incapable of staying on point?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 09-27-2010, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

Thinking everything is hunky-dory at this point wouldn't be much less of an overreaction. They're 3 games into the season. There's a long, long haul left to go.

Just enjoy the wins, and don't overthink.

Yep. My only beef was and still is Cassel. The way we're playing right now, a QB of even Orton's stature could help us win a round-one game.

**jAZ** · 12-19-2010, 05:21 PM

For anyone who's enjoying their Cassel-crow and looking to get it all in one giant helping.

View Poll Results: Did you over-react to the work of Scott Pioli?
No, I knew Pioli would build a winner all along... I'm a PioliZombie!	29	24.58%
No, I took a wait and see, for at least one full season, maybe longer.	80	67.80%
No, this is a mirage, Pioli, Haley, Cassel, et al still suck.	2	1.69%
Yes, I over reacted. They know what they are doing.	7	5.93%
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