Chiefs Did you over-react to the work of Scott Pioli? - Page 8

**jAZ** · 09-26-2010, 01:58 PM

There were a whole lot of people who lost patience with Scott Pioli starting after the hiring of Todd Haley and the 1st pick in the 2009 draft.

The Haley Hire sucked.
The Tyson Jackson pick sucked.
The Cassel/Vrabel trade sucked.
The whole 2009 Draft sucked.
Tamba Hali sucks.
The Dexter McCluster pick sucked.
The Tony Moeaki pick sucked.
The moves on the OL sucked.
The majority of the 2010 draft sucked.
Playing Thomas Jones so much sucks.

What else am I missing?

Titty Meat · 12-20-2010, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Bowe was a 1,000 yard reciever before Haley arrived.

Engram, Thomas, Goff, Wade, Ryan and several others were brought in (as was Pendergast), before the draft that brought them Jackson, Magee, Washington, Brown and O'Connell. Let's not even get into who was on the board at the time those selections were made.

Succop is and was irrelevant. Connor Barth was solid and continues to be solid in Tampa Bay. While he's done reasonably well, this pick could have been used elsewhere.

Bowe never had 14 TD's in one season before though you can't argue that he's improved.

Of course there will be some misses look at New Englands history while Pioli was there.

Succop is a better kicker at Arrowhead than Barth was. Barth couldn't hit anything past 40 yards and his kickoffs only went to the 10 yard line.

And you can't ignore the most important # and thats wins.

Hootie · 12-20-2010, 02:29 AM

Dane is just a big joke to me now...

I have fun reading threads he is in...because it's him against the world...

come on Dane...tell me how much I like to rape and drink and sell pizza to teenagers! Anything to make you feel like a man brah!

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-20-2010, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

Bowe never had 14 TD's in one season before though you can't argue that he's improved.

Of course there will be some misses look at New Englands history while Pioli was there.

Succop is a better kicker at Arrowhead than Barth was. Barth couldn't hit anything past 40 yards and his kickoffs only went to the 10 yard line.

And you can't ignore the most important # and thats wins.

Wow, thanks for addressing the kicker and ignoring the other 10 ****ing examples.

You and Hootie make a lovely couple. Good luck.

GordonGekko · 12-20-2010, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

Bowe never had 14 TD's in one season before though you can't argue that he's improved.

Bowe needs to wake the **** up, like 3 catches the last three games. WTF?

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-20-2010, 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko

Bowe needs to wake the **** up, like 3 catches the last three games. WTF?

Don't confuse him with facts.

Otherwise, he'll whip out his guns.

Titty Meat · 12-20-2010, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Wow, thanks for addressing the kicker and ignoring the other 10 ****ing examples.

You and Hootie make a lovely couple. Good luck.

You're crazy. Hootie isn't relevant to the discussion at all. I pointed out even in New England they had misses you don't want to acknowledge that wins are the most important part do you? 13 in 2 seasons compared to 6 the previous.

Hootie · 12-20-2010, 02:33 AM

EVERYONE IS OUT TO GET YOU DANE

CHIEFSPLANET VS. DANE

WE'RE ALL JEALOUS OF YOU DANE...AND YOUR GREAT LIFESTYLE AND YOUR 3.9 WIFE WHO OWNS HOLLYWOOD AND THREE JUMBO JETS

I WANT TO GROW UP TO BE DANE MCCLOUD

Titty Meat · 12-20-2010, 02:34 AM

Haha at the F list producer trying to get all personal. Don't go all Phil Hartmans wife on us Hollywood.

Hootie · 12-20-2010, 02:36 AM

watch out dude Dane was digging around Lindsey Lohan's trash the other day and found a half bottle of pepper spray and he's not afraid to use it!

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-20-2010, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

You're crazy. Hootie isn't relevant to the discussion at all. I pointed out even in New England they had misses you don't want to acknowledge that wins are the most important part do you? 13 in 2 seasons compared to 6 the previous.

You keep moving the goalposts, Bill.

The Chiefs had an awful 2009 and in spite of that, they're winning in 2010.

But winning in 2010 doesn't absolve them of their failures in 2009. If anything, it just goes to prove how quickly a team can turnaround in the NFL due to the draft and free agency.

Pioli made the right moves, due to prior affiliations, in his 2010 hirings and his past affiliation with Todd Haley.

But none of those moves will ever excuse him of his failure to acquire players in the 2009 draft and offseason that can contribute this year and in future years.

Matt Cassel is the only exception and as I stated earlier, that was pre-destined the day Pioli was hired. Compensation was the only issue.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-20-2010, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

Haha at the F list producer trying to get all personal. Don't go all Phil Hartmans wife on us Hollywood.

Is this the game you want to play?

I was easy on you the first time around but if this is it, it's on.

And for the record, you ****ing hillbilly dumb****, I am NOT a movie producer.

salame · 12-20-2010, 02:38 AM

dane is a producer?

Titty Meat · 12-20-2010, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You keep moving the goalposts, Bill.

The Chiefs had an awful 2009 and in spite of that, they're winning in 2010.

But winning in 2010 doesn't absolve them of their failures in 2009. If anything, it just goes to prove how quickly a team can turnaround in the NFL due to the draft and free agency.

Pioli made the right moves, due to prior affiliations, in his 2010 hirings and his past affiliation with Todd Haley.

But none of those moves will ever excuse him of his failure to acquire players in the 2009 draft and offseason that can contribute this year and in future years.

Matt Cassel is the only exception and as I stated earlier, that was pre-destined the day Pioli was hired. Compensation was the only issue.

How am I moving the goal post Dane? I've acknowledged a million times that the 2009 draft sucked despite it sucking Pioli was able to get Succop and Cassel who have both contributed to the team. 2010 was a success how can we ignore the most important result which is Wins and Loses?

Hootie · 12-20-2010, 02:40 AM

oh Billay can't get personal with Dane, but Dane can get personal with everyone else?

oh, cool

I see

Titty Meat · 12-20-2010, 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Is this the game you want to play?

I was easy on you the first time around but if this is it, it's on.

And for the record, you ****ing hillbilly dumb****, I am NOT a movie producer.

Dipshit you were the one trying to get personal I merely was debating football.

You grew up in the same town as me what does that make you?

View Poll Results: Did you over-react to the work of Scott Pioli?
No, I knew Pioli would build a winner all along... I'm a PioliZombie!	29	24.58%
No, I took a wait and see, for at least one full season, maybe longer.	80	67.80%
No, this is a mirage, Pioli, Haley, Cassel, et al still suck.	2	1.69%
Yes, I over reacted. They know what they are doing.	7	5.93%
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12-20-2010, 02:29 AM	#107
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