The case for Nick Foles

[Hoover]

Trading any high round picks for either Foles or AlexSmith is a deal breaker. We don't need another expensive bandaid.

[Messier]

Everyone that threatens they'll be done if this happens or they'll be done if that happens need to stop.

Just save a lot of time, and a lot of whiny posts, just be done now.

Also, there's no way any team gives a 1 for Foles. I like Foles, and if Kelly is demanding a 1st, he must too.

[Lex Luthor]

Originally Posted by Messier

Everyone that threatens they'll be done if this happens or they'll be done if that happens need to stop.

Just save a lot of time, and a lot of whiny posts, just be done now.

Also, there's no way any team gives a 1 for Foles. I like Foles, and if Kelly is demanding a 1st, he must too.

Kelly is just trying to drive up the price for Foles by saying that the Eagles would have to be "overwhelmed" with a trade offer to move him. I'm sure he doesn't think the Chiefs or any other team is actually that stupid.

[AndChiefs]

Originally Posted by Brainiac

Kelly is just trying to drive up the price for Foles by saying that the Eagles would have to be "overwhelmed" with a trade offer to move him. I'm sure he doesn't think the Chiefs or any other team is actually that stupid.

Yep what do you expect him to say? "We'd probably just give him away but if somebody flips us a 7th we'd be ecstatic!"

[Messier]

Originally Posted by AndChiefs

Yep what do you expect him to say? "We'd probably just give him away but if somebody flips us a 7th we'd be ecstatic!"

I'd expect him to say we're open to a trade. But he said we don't want to trade him.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Messier

I'd expect him to say we're open to a trade. But he said we don't want to trade him.

This.

[cdcox]

I'm okay with trading a 3rd for Foles but there are a couple of clear biases in the OP that should be pointed out. The facts are correct, but the interpretation is slanted or just misleading.

He excels on crossing patterns like slants and square-ins, plays that receivers are moving horizontally. He has the arm strength to get the ball firmly outside the numbers on out-routes. He's probably best on slant and post routes.

These are the easiest throws on the field. He has decent accuracy on these, and that's good, but it can be considered the ante to enter the game. If you can't make these throws, you're not a QB.

Foles natural throwing ability is on display with the different arm angles he uses when throwing passes. He will drop-down and go almost side-arm or three quarters at times when throwing screens or in traffic under pressure.

His throwing motion isn't a bug, it's a feature!!!!! True bias here. His throwing motion is definitely a downgrade. Lots of franchise QBs have poor throwing motions, but it isn't something to celebrate.

[cdcox]

The huge risk for Reid and Dorsey is the following: 1)if they pass on all of the QBs in the first round, 2) any other team takes a first round QB, 3) that QB becomes franchise level, and 4) the Chiefs haven't developed their own franchise QB. The franchise is then on fire in the middle of a tornado. If the stud is Geno, the tornado is made out of shit. If they pass on Geno he has to bust in the NFL or the Chiefs have to be damn sure they have their own. Ironically, it is safer to fail by taking Geno than it is to fail by passing on him.

[B14ckmon]

Hopefully the Jaguars take Ziggy Ansah so he can break in whatever QB the Chiefs have next year.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

lol..."the case for Foles" is hopefully made by Samsonite and tagged to land anywhere but KC...
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[Saccopoo]

I'm not going to read this shit.

Foles was a fourth rounder in his draft class that got bumped because the rest of the class got drafted early.

Great arm, no mobility and questionable decision making.

That's available in every single draft class.

**** trading a pick for that shit.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I'm not going to read this shit.

Foles was a fourth rounder in his draft class that got bumped because the rest of the class got drafted early.

Great arm, no mobility and questionable decision making.

That's available in every single draft class.

**** trading a pick for that shit.

That's not how I'd describe Foles. Foles moves around quite well. He ran the same type offense that Smith runs, and had to show some mobility. Foles wasn't in the class of Luck, RGIII, or Wilson, but he played better and shows more promise than a number of 1st round picks in recent years. I don't know who will rise up out of the rookie class but of the eight or so top QBs everyone talks about, Foles is already better than over half of them will be.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by Messier

That's not how I'd describe Foles. Foles moves around quite well. He ran the same type offense that Smith runs, and had to show some mobility. Foles wasn't in the class of Luck, RGIII, or Wilson, but he played better and shows more promise than a number of 1st round picks in recent years. I don't know who will rise up out of the rookie class but of the eight or so top QBs everyone talks about, Foles is already better than over half of them will be.

This post has Excederin written all over it...
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[Messier]

Originally Posted by Sweet Dick Willie

This post has Excederin written all over it...
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Sorry to hear that. I'm correct, however.

[jspchief]

Originally Posted by Saccopoo

I'm not going to read this shit.

Foles was a fourth rounder in his draft class that got bumped because the rest of the class got drafted early.

Great arm, no mobility and questionable decision making.

That's available in every single draft class.

**** trading a pick for that shit.

Agree. The guy was talked about in the first before his 2011 season and played his way into the 3rd round.

He'll never amount to shit in the NFL. **** no.