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Old 08-28-2017, 11:47 AM   #1
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Always a good day when we trade with the Bills.
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Old 08-28-2017, 06:13 PM   #2
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Always a good day when we trade with the Bills.

Shady McCoy would be a nice addition.
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Old 08-28-2017, 11:48 AM   #3
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Nice trade hopefully he works out for the Chiefs. And hope he gets to play this last pre season for a bit.
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Old 08-28-2017, 11:53 AM   #4
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Old 08-28-2017, 11:57 AM   #5
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Even if he doesn't produce much this season, he'll have accrued a year's experience in the system. Pretty much the same scenario if they had drafted Foster...

They have him for 3 more years on his rookie deal...hard not like the risk/reward on this.
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Old 08-28-2017, 11:58 AM   #6
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Veach apparently sees the ILB spot asa bigger need than Dorsey did
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Old 08-28-2017, 12:01 PM   #7
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Veach apparently sees the ILB spot asa bigger need than Dorsey did
KPL and now Ragland.

I also believe that Veach knows the end is near for DJ.

He got a first round talent with 3 years left on his deal for 2019 4th rounder.

That's freaking value.
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Old 08-28-2017, 12:07 PM   #8
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That's freaking value.
Only if he pans out. If he doesn't we have only lost a 4th 2yrs away which might not be a big deal when the time comes.
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Old 08-28-2017, 12:11 PM   #9
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Only if he pans out. If he doesn't we have only lost a 4th 2yrs away which might not be a big deal when the time comes.
You're ****ing clueless, as always.
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Old 08-28-2017, 12:28 PM   #10
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Old 08-28-2017, 12:56 PM   #11
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KPL and now Ragland.

I also believe that Veach knows the end is near for DJ.

He got a first round talent with 3 years left on his deal for 2019 4th rounder.

That's freaking value.
Ragland isn't a true replacement for DJ unless they kinda re-envision the role that DJ plays.

I don't believe Ragland is a 3-down 'backer but rather a complementary 2-down player. When DJ goes, he still needs to be replaced.

But what this might do is give us a nice young core at ILB presuming that Wilson can take another step or Eligwe develops. The interesting thing about Eligwe and Ragland being top HS recruits was how complementary their respective skill-sets are. 2 very highly regarded, high pedigree players who have vastly different strengths.

If Eligwe can develop his game and get comfortable in space, he and Ragland could be 5+ year solutions in the middle of this defense. That's pretty exciting to think about.
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:05 PM   #12
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Ragland isn't a true replacement for DJ unless they kinda re-envision the role that DJ plays.

I don't believe Ragland is a 3-down 'backer but rather a complementary 2-down player. When DJ goes, he still needs to be replaced.

But what this might do is give us a nice young core at ILB presuming that Wilson can take another step or Eligwe develops. The interesting thing about Eligwe and Ragland being top HS recruits was how complementary their respective skill-sets are. 2 very highly regarded, high pedigree players who have vastly different strengths.

If Eligwe can develop his game and get comfortable in space, he and Ragland could be 5+ year solutions in the middle of this defense. That's pretty exciting to think about.
You don't think Ragland can play in space?
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:10 PM   #13
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You don't think Ragland can play in space?
Can Alabama LB Reggie Ragland get anymore freakish?

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/al...more-freakish/

Ragland is also money in space, similar to former superstar safety Landon Collins, which lends itself to his positional versatility; he can literally excel at all three off-the-ball LB positions in an even-front alignment.

Ragland already excels in zone drops, and he will only get better in his man coverage as he will play the strong-side inside linebacker next to, perhaps, the Tide’s next great LB, Reuben Foster.
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Old 08-28-2017, 01:41 PM   #14
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You don't think Ragland can play in space?
'Can't' would be strong.

'hasn't' seems fair. Alabama just generally doesn't ask it of their LBs so you're going largely based on skill-set and hoping you can teach the nuance/instincts required of the position.

Until I see it done, I'd have a hard time taking it on faith. I think he has some decent tools but he isn't that kind of freak natural athlete that DJ was (or Foster, IMO). He strikes me as more of a Kendall Beckwith or maybe Raekwon McMillan type.

To some degree we're just a bit spoiled by DJ so I may be asking more of him than is truly fair. Not many LBs are natural in coverage and we just happen to have one of them. So trying to find another one like him is like trying to find another Tony Gonzalez who can catch AND block. We got lucky and managed to do exactly that with Kelce but that's not a common thing.
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