What's with Chester?

[elvislivesinkc]

I read that Chester has missed practice this week. He is only the probable starter? I thought he only had the wind knocked out of him against Tampa. Is this another case of the Chiefs downplaying a more serious injury ala Dan Williams and his 4 week bronchitis last year? I don't think Chester is all that great, but he is our best DT, we need him to bring the heat on Manning.

[Chieffan]

In a way, isn't that comparing apples to oranges?(DL vz DE)..examples like Kerse when talking about Glock? Interior linemen are dealing with guard/center blocking while the DEs are mostly on tackle, and maybe a TE..

Shouldn't you count more on DE for sacs? I guess I've always assumed that an interior lineman is supposed to 1. stop the run 2. collapse the pocket, forcing QB into DE?<P>

[Michael Michigan]

Now Sapp based on last year was on a totally different planet than most linemen, but when exactly did he have 15 sacks?

Sacks by defensive tackles IMO are predicated on the quality of your outside pass rush. If you can contain the QB in the pocket, then the middle has more time and opportunity to sack the QB, esp. if they're trying to step up in the pocket. Otherwise the middle will give the initial push causing the QB to roll away from the pressure, and if you have a capable outside pass rush, they get to him, if you don't, he's just bought himself more time to get rid of the ball.

Can Chester play better? Of course. I think if Browning, Clemons, Hicks and/or Williams bring anything to the table this year, and if Chester is as dedicated as Gun says he is, we'll see much better numbers in terms of sacks this year.

According to most football experts and coaches, the DT is 1) a run-stopper and 2) supposed to force the QB out of the pocket to be sacked by a DE or a LB.

We had the 11th ranked D against the run last year, despite VERY poor tackling from our LB and DBs, so can we assume he did #1?

And as far as #2 goes, who did we have to pick up the sack when Chester collapsed the pocket? Nobody... (and don't say he didn't collapse the pocket...I watched every game and so did alot of analysts who agree with me.)

So it comes again down to this...there is a very vocal minority that believes Chester sucks. But the preponderance of evidence indicates the latter, and so does the general concensus amongst those who get PAID to analyze football.

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Parker
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[mikey23545]

Chester McGlockton is one of the most overrated players in the entire NFL, he is VASTLY overpaid and his stats have steadily declined over the past 4 years in row.

1996: Solo Tackles 58 – Sacks 8
1997: Solo Tackles 55 – Sacks 4
1998: Solo Tackles 24 – Sacks 1
1999: Solo Tackles 35 – Sacks 1

He is not the player some Chiefs fans make him out to be.

His “QB pressure” numbers really don’t mean squat either. That is a totally subjective stat that can differ GREATLY from one person’s opinion to another. If he get’s so much “pressure” on the QB, he NEEDS TO FINISH THE JOB AND GET THE SACK! In 98 and 99 he put rookie free-agent numbers! I literally went through and found like 30 or 40 defensive tackles that put up better tackle and sack numbers than Glock last year. It’s time we stop trying to act like Glock is a dominant player when nothing could be farther from the truth.

Have I mentioned that he lead he lead the league in penalties on 3rd and short that prolong opponents drives?

We could do much better for 4 mil. per season.<BR>

[Boise_Chief]

I don't have an opinion one way or the other with Glock, but the one thing I have noticed is that he doesn't get the penetration he used to.

When he was a dominant force playing for the Raiduhs, he would totally man-handle his opponent and get into the backfield. Now, I see a lot more struggle at the line of scrimmage, and less havoc created for the offense.

Of course Cannibal, you're right. Why is it that you aren't a sports writer or analyst?

Again, 2 guys are disagreeing with alot of people that make a profession out of analyzing football. I guess I'll believe you guys, you seem to be more qualified.

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Parker
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[elvislivesinkc]

htismaqe,

Do you believe everything you read?

How do 35 solo tackles and 1 sack make Chester a Pro Bowl caliber player?

He is overrated and is living off of his past reputation.<P>

[wutamess]

I don't think you can properly evaluate McGlockton until we have a decent DE on the team. It is foolish to expect McGlockton to do it all by himself. He certainly got no help from the DE or DT positions last season. He was pretty much a one-man band. On the other hand, his detractors are correct in saying that his numbers are not impressive and that he draws a disturbing number of penalties.

Let's see how he does with Clemons and Hicks at DE. If they bring the pressure from the outside and Browning helps out on the inside, we should see Chester's numbers increase significantly. If a better supporting cast shows up and his numbers still do not impress, I will be ready to concede that he is overrated and overpaid. It is premature to make that claim at this point, IMO.

xoxo~
gaz
waiting to see the 2000 McGlockton show.<BR>

[Luzap]

I find myself agreeing with the esteemed Gaz once again. Shocking, isn't it!

[mikey23545]

htismaqe,


Many fans like yourself always ***** , moan and complain anytime "a TV analyst who gets
paid to analyze football" picks the Chiefs to come in last in the division. You always say they don't know what their talking about etc. etc.

But now you find one that agrees w/ your opinion and you says he's correct because he gets paid to analyze the game.

Sorry dude, but that's just too inconsistant for me.

[KCTitus]

Chiefsnj,

I think you will find a much higher level of talent on the Tampa line so that comparison is not exactly valid. A better comparision might be Tez Kennedy in Seattle. There you see a very similar result, lots of pressures very few sacks. Just my opinion.

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Jim Reynolds
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[flowergirl]

The fact that Glock is completely dependent on the play of his fellow D-linemen is proof, IMO, that he is is overrated.

As far as official stats, Glock and DW were almost identical, according to CBSSportsline.com.

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[DaKCMan AP]

Sapp's pay last year (base + bonus): $6,230,600

[DaKCMan AP]

McGlockton's (base + bonus): $3,250,000

[This message has been edited by G_Man (edited 08-31-2000).]

[mikey23545]

Sacks:

Sapp - 12.5
Glock – 1


Forced Fumbles:

Sapp – 4
Glock – 1


Fumble Recoveries:

Sapp – 2
Glock – 1<BR>