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Old 06-14-2013, 06:23 PM   #1
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Kanye has limited talent, but makes up for it with an over inflated ego. In other words he is shit and is a "genius" in a time of shitty rap.
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Old 06-14-2013, 06:33 PM   #2
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Kanye has limited talent, but makes up for it with an over inflated ego. In other words he is shit and is a "genius" in a time of shitty rap.
Oh good lord, no. Rap is freaking amazing right now.
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Old 06-14-2013, 06:38 PM   #3
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Oh good lord, no. Rap is freaking amazing right now.
**** no it isn't. When you have guys like Kanye, 2 Chainz, Lil Wayne, Drake and guys like that as the main thing it just isn't. There are some great ones out there right now, but they have been at it for 10-15 years.
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Old 06-14-2013, 06:42 PM   #4
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**** no it isn't. When you have guys like Kanye, 2 Chainz, Lil Wayne, Drake and guys like that as the main thing it just isn't. There are some great ones out there right now, but they have been at it for 10-15 years.
The ASAP crew is promising as hell.
Black Hippie is badass.
OddFuture is great.
Danny Brown is awesome.

Those are relatively mainstream acts as well. If you get into underground stuff it gets even more interesting. Hiphop has become respected and respectable. The artists engaging in it are like 3rd generation, and they're smart as hell with their production. They're pushing the envelope. I'm old school. Met the Geto Boys. Saw MC Breed in concert. Saw ****ing Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer. Loved all that shit. Got into the whole Tribe/Native Tongues movement as well. Was listening to Life is Too Short in 8th grade.

I think rap is as good as it's ever been right now.
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Old 06-14-2013, 06:48 PM   #5
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The ASAP crew is promising as hell.
Black Hippie is badass.
OddFuture is great.
Danny Brown is awesome.

Those are relatively mainstream acts as well. If you get into underground stuff it gets even more interesting. Hiphop has become respected and respectable. The artists engaging in it are like 3rd generation, and they're smart as hell with their production. They're pushing the envelope. I'm old school. Met the Geto Boys. Saw MC Breed in concert. Saw ****ing Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer. Loved all that shit. Got into the whole Tribe/Native Tongues movement as well. Was listening to Life is Too Short in 8th grade.

I think rap is as good as it's ever been right now.
I'm going to respectfully disagree. I think it is significantly weaker mainly because of the guys I listed. There are some very talented MC's and some very talented producers, but those guys have been around for over 10 years. Just my humble opinion.
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Old 06-14-2013, 06:51 PM   #6
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I'm going to respectfully disagree. I think it is significantly weaker mainly because of the guys I listed. There are some very talented MC's and some very talented producers, but those guys have been around for over 10 years. Just my humble opinion.
Did you listen to Kendrick Lamar's album last year? Have you listened to Chance the Rapper? Amazing 20 year old phenom that sort of encapsulates, to me, where rap is heading. Smart ass prep school type kids who have a huge musical vocabulary (he wears ****ing Grateful Dead shirts and tie dye and such) on which to draw. Here, listen to it free:
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Old 06-14-2013, 06:52 PM   #7
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Did you listen to Kendrick Lamar's album last year? Have you listened to Chance the Rapper? Amazing 20 year old phenom. Here, listen to it free:
I did listen to Kendrick Lamar, it was ok, it didn't do much for me. I'll check this other one out.
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Old 06-16-2013, 05:55 PM   #8
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Did you listen to Kendrick Lamar's album last year? Have you listened to Chance the Rapper? Amazing 20 year old phenom that sort of encapsulates, to me, where rap is heading. Smart ass prep school type kids who have a huge musical vocabulary (he wears ****ing Grateful Dead shirts and tie dye and such) on which to draw. Here, listen to it free:
Oh, and thanks for the link NewChief. I'm pretty sure you've posted this in the now listening thread and I've meant to check it out a couple of times. I've gave it a quick listen and dig what I'm hearing.

Definitely a refreshing sound.
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Old 06-25-2013, 11:43 AM   #9
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Have you listened to Chance the Rapper? Amazing 20 year old phenom that sort of encapsulates, to me, where rap is heading. Smart ass prep school type kids who have a huge musical vocabulary (he wears ****ing Grateful Dead shirts and tie dye and such) on which to draw.
Was thinking about checking this kid out in Austin. Only problem is that the headliner is Mac Miller.. I'll pass on that crowd.
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I'm going to respectfully disagree. I think it is significantly weaker mainly because of the guys I listed. There are some very talented MC's and some very talented producers, but those guys have been around for over 10 years. Just my humble opinion.
I've been pondering this a lot over the last few days. I think there are a few things that are contributing to my current ranking of hip hop as extremely interesting right now:

1) Drugs: It's in a psychedelic era due to the type of drugs in the scene right now. The culture is dominated by molly (x), lean, and weed. All of those give varying degrees of mind alteration, but they've contributed to some seriously trippy and experimental music being made.

2) Crossover: for better or worse, hipsters are into hip hop. This has had a validating effect on the artistic value of the music (it's not just pop anymore). This has led to a lot of crossover of genres with things like Justin Vernon showing up on Kanye albums. It's also led to a lot of interesting production work and choices (also heightened by #1 above).

3) Maturity: we're in like the 3rd generation of the culture now. As such, we get non typical people like Kanye West, Danny Brown, Kitty Pryde (who I can't stand), Odd Future, ASAP Rocky, who have a broader world view than the ghetto-centric vision of much of hip hop in the past.
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**** no it isn't. When you have guys like Kanye, 2 Chainz, Lil Wayne, Drake and guys like that as the main thing it just isn't. There are some great ones out there right now, but they have been at it for 10-15 years.
You could make the same argument for literally any genre.

All you gotta do is switch the Lil Wayne, 2Chainz, etc for shitty big name artists in whatever genre you want to talk about.
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Kanye, 2 Chainz, Lil Wayne, Drake.
Uhh, two of these are not like the other two. Drake has one of the tightest flows of any rapper out there, mainstream or otherwise, and Kanye' s career could be considered a mega-success off his first 3 albums alone.

Anyway, thanks for the link. I fear my favorite Kanye days are over and he's slowly been slipping into insanity ( or something, idk ) since his mom died. If I could get another Graduation, I'd be good to go.
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Kanye has limited talent, but makes up for it with an over inflated ego. In other words he is shit and is a "genius" in a time of shitty rap.
lol.

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lol.

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lol people who think Kanye is talented.
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