Chiefs I was impressed with Cassel - Page 3

**petegz28** · 09-09-2012, 01:53 PM

He didn't start to look like the old Cassel until the game was out of reach. His passes were crisp, ontime, to the correct receiver and he went through progressions. He marched us into scoring position until Moeaki decided to make a weak attempt at catching a ball which ended up tipped and picked. It was not Cassel's fault. The fumble was not Cassel's fault. The 2nd INT was the old Cassel though he was trying to make a play in a game that we were out of but nonetheless was a bad decision.

All in all he looked good. He was put in a position that he was literally forced to score on every drive and was doing a good job of it until some others started choking.

I'm not down on him yet. If our defense was worth half a **** today we most likley stomp Atlanta.

**petegz28** · 09-09-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

In the 1st half...

Last I checked, there are 4 quarters.

He did fine to start the 2nd half. Succupos ****ed us, Ablert ****ed us and Moeaki ****ed us. By the time Cassel started shitting the bed the game was over

**J Diddy** · 09-09-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Janus

Funny how you leave out the second INT when Cassel tries to throw across his body which even ultra QB homer Billick said was something QB's learn not to do in middle school.

That was a mistake. Please point out the others.

**notorious** · 09-09-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Janus

Funny how you leave out the second INT when Cassel tries to throw across his body which even ultra QB homer Billick said was something QB's learn not to do in middle school.

Game was gone at that point, so who care?

**cdcox** · 09-09-2012, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

The 2nd fumble can be blamed directly on Albert.

However, Cassel's pocket presense, or lack thereof, contributed.

Albert was out of his stance before any of the other OL. I thought he might have had a false start. Bob Dole said 55 was off sides for Atlanta. It could still be on Albert, but there might have been mitigating circumstances.

**BigMeatballDave** · 09-09-2012, 02:02 PM

Matt certainty isn't the reason they lost, but he did nothing to stop the bleeding in the 2nd half.

**petegz28** · 09-09-2012, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Janus

Funny how you leave out the second INT when Cassel tries to throw across his body which even ultra QB homer Billick said was something QB's learn not to do in middle school.

I mentioned that in the OP, dumbass. And at that point it was rather moot anyway.

tk13 · 09-09-2012, 02:02 PM

Although I agree on this... if this offense doesn't score 41 points a game, Cassel is a failure. No excuse not to score 40 points every week.

BWillie · 09-09-2012, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hugh Janus

Did you watch the second half of today's game or were you too busy firing up your personal Matt Cassel prostate massager.

Dude they were down 3TDs+, its third and whatever. I have no problem with him forcing the issue there. Cassel sucks but he had nothing to do with losing this game.

**petegz28** · 09-09-2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cdcox

Albert was out of his stance before any of the other OL. I thought he might have had a false start. Bob Dole said 55 was off sides for Atlanta. It could still be on Albert, but there might have been mitigating circumstances.

Either way it wasn't Cassel's fault. Whether it was on Albert or the defense getting away with offsides

ModSocks · 09-09-2012, 02:03 PM

Cassel looked better. He was more accurate. He showed some balls, had some good velocity on his passes.

But at the end of the day, he lost and turned the ball over 3 times.

Dont be confused. Better does not equal good.

jd1020 · 09-09-2012, 02:03 PM

Cassel looked good until the Moeaki dropped interception. Everything after that was typical Cassel.

chiefzilla1501 · 09-09-2012, 02:04 PM

This loss isn't on Cassel.

But the game raises more concerns on offense than it does good things. For several reasons. Daboll's adjustments in the second half were putrid. This also isn't the first time Cassel has lost his cool and made stupid mistakes in frustration -- not something you want to see in your QB.

More importantly... I'm concerned about the way Atlanta adjusted. Was the first half really Cassel or was it that Atlanta didn't know how to play them? Because Atlanta completely had KC's number in the second half. While Cassel played well, you didn't see him do anything special in the first half either. He stood in a very clean pocket and threw to wide open receivers, mostly, and mostly on the primary read. Maybe he has enough weapons to keep doing that. My sense is, that's going to be exposed big time, along with the fact that we don't throw the ball deep. More intermediate routes than last year, but no deep ones.

jd1020 · 09-09-2012, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Cassel looked better. He was more accurate. He showed some balls, had some good velocity on his passes.

But at the end of the day, he lost and turned the ball over 3 times.

Dont be confused. Better does not equal good.

He lost the ball once, at least in my book. The fumble and first interception I don't blame on him. Albert gave a blind side pass rusher a free shot at Cassel and Moeaki just whiffs on a catch.

Deberg_1990 · 09-09-2012, 02:05 PM

Everything was going ok until the Succop whiff. It's all his fault.

**cdcox** · 09-09-2012, 02:05 PM

Here's what I saw:

A great half. Four real money throws. Exactly the kind of game you want from a game manager.

A completely ineffective half in which Cassel did not lead a single scoring drive until the last meaningless drive. A couple of really bonehead throws.

Overall, same old Cassel.

09-09-2012, 01:53 PM
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $2774127	I was impressed with Cassel He didn't start to look like the old Cassel until the game was out of reach. His passes were crisp, ontime, to the correct receiver and he went through progressions. He marched us into scoring position until Moeaki decided to make a weak attempt at catching a ball which ended up tipped and picked. It was not Cassel's fault. The fumble was not Cassel's fault. The 2nd INT was the old Cassel though he was trying to make a play in a game that we were out of but nonetheless was a bad decision. All in all he looked good. He was put in a position that he was literally forced to score on every drive and was doing a good job of it until some others started choking. I'm not down on him yet. If our defense was worth half a **** today we most likley stomp Atlanta.
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09-09-2012, 02:02 PM	#37
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1962500	Although I agree on this... if this offense doesn't score 41 points a game, Cassel is a failure. No excuse not to score 40 points every week.
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ModSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $4274563	Cassel looked better. He was more accurate. He showed some balls, had some good velocity on his passes. But at the end of the day, he lost and turned the ball over 3 times. Dont be confused. Better does not equal good. __________________ Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
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jd1020 In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2010 Casino cash: $7742645	Cassel looked good until the Moeaki dropped interception. Everything after that was typical Cassel.
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09-09-2012, 02:04 PM	#42
chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $2084497	This loss isn't on Cassel. But the game raises more concerns on offense than it does good things. For several reasons. Daboll's adjustments in the second half were putrid. This also isn't the first time Cassel has lost his cool and made stupid mistakes in frustration -- not something you want to see in your QB. More importantly... I'm concerned about the way Atlanta adjusted. Was the first half really Cassel or was it that Atlanta didn't know how to play them? Because Atlanta completely had KC's number in the second half. While Cassel played well, you didn't see him do anything special in the first half either. He stood in a very clean pocket and threw to wide open receivers, mostly, and mostly on the primary read. Maybe he has enough weapons to keep doing that. My sense is, that's going to be exposed big time, along with the fact that we don't throw the ball deep. More intermediate routes than last year, but no deep ones.
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Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	Everything was going ok until the Succop whiff. It's all his fault. __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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09-09-2012, 02:05 PM	#45
cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $2331769	Here's what I saw: A great half. Four real money throws. Exactly the kind of game you want from a game manager. A completely ineffective half in which Cassel did not lead a single scoring drive until the last meaningless drive. A couple of really bonehead throws. Overall, same old Cassel.
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