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Old 10-14-2013, 11:51 AM   #1
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I don't know anything about this case. However...whenever nearly everyone involved in a situation like this is on one side, and an article is published that makes it seem like all of those people are out of their minds...generally, there is a lot more to the story.

Is it more likely that an entire community is cool with raping a young girl OR is it more likely that a single reporter is trying to break a huge story by selectively including/omitting critical details?
That crossed my mind when I read about the house being burned down, because that takes a lot of hate even beyond blaming the victim.... but, the story on kansascity.com is pretty damn detailed and video doesn't lie.

I don't think it's really a matter of "an entire community being cool with rape," since the article says it's sparked outrage in the community. I don't think it's hard to imagine a football star telling lies, spreading rumors, etc; to the point that at least part of the school sides with the popular kids. I read somewhere else that the 17 year old has also had other charges dropped in the past, too.

You could very well be right, but unless some of the details in the article are flat out wrong, it certainly seems like a teenage girl waking up on a lawn with a BAC of .17 (or whatever it was) in 40 degree temps and video of the incident warrants more of an explanation than "lack of evidence".
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Old 10-14-2013, 12:02 PM   #2
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That crossed my mind when I read about the house being burned down, because that takes a lot of hate even beyond blaming the victim.... but, the story on kansascity.com is pretty damn detailed and video doesn't lie.

I don't think it's really a matter of "an entire community being cool with rape," since the article says it's sparked outrage in the community. I don't think it's hard to imagine a football star telling lies, spreading rumors, etc; to the point that at least part of the school sides with the popular kids. I read somewhere else that the 17 year old has also had other charges dropped in the past, too.

You could very well be right, but unless some of the details in the article are flat out wrong, it certainly seems like a teenage girl waking up on a lawn with a BAC of .17 (or whatever it was) in 40 degree temps and video of the incident warrants more of an explanation than "lack of evidence".
Prior DUI, I think.
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That crossed my mind when I read about the house being burned down, because that takes a lot of hate even beyond blaming the victim.... but, the story on kansascity.com is pretty damn detailed and video doesn't lie.

I don't think it's really a matter of "an entire community being cool with rape," since the article says it's sparked outrage in the community. I don't think it's hard to imagine a football star telling lies, spreading rumors, etc; to the point that at least part of the school sides with the popular kids. I read somewhere else that the 17 year old has also had other charges dropped in the past, too.

You could very well be right, but unless some of the details in the article are flat out wrong, it certainly seems like a teenage girl waking up on a lawn with a BAC of .17 (or whatever it was) in 40 degree temps and video of the incident warrants more of an explanation than "lack of evidence".
Was the girls mother's house burned down or is it referring to McElroy's house, which burned several months after he was executed.
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Was the girls mother's house burned down or is it referring to McElroy's house, which burned several months after he was executed.
Alleged rape vic's house.
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Alleged rape vic's house.
Yeah, that one... they moved before selling their house in Maryville, and it burned down. The article said it was investigated but the cause wasn't determined.

It's disgusting enough to blame the victim and cover up something like that, but then to go after them by firing the mom and burn down the house they lived in (and I'm sure the girls had a pleasant time in school, too)... holy shit.
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Yeah, that one... they moved before selling their house in Maryville, and it burned down. The article said it was investigated but the cause wasn't determined.

It's disgusting enough to blame the victim and cover up something like that, but then to go after them by firing the mom and burn down the house they lived in (and I'm sure the girls had a pleasant time in school, too)... holy shit.
That may have been a good thing if they were making payments on it and the community refused to buy it.
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