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Old 07-09-2013, 09:18 PM   #1
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I have completely given up on Alex Smith as a qb. Its painful to watch. Like, worse than watching Colt McCoy.
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:19 PM   #2
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:13 PM   #3
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Goddamn clay how is it POSSIBLE gaining the most yards per pass attempt could be a bad thing.

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Old 07-09-2013, 08:14 PM   #4
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:28 PM   #5
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This is one of those arguments that falls into the "quarterbacking rating is a useless stat" category, which is something I've been saying for about as long as I can remember. Because of the emphasis placed on comp percentage and yardage, you can have stat inflation when a QB completes a high percentage of short passes. It's to me the same sort of problem you get when you rank total offense and defense based on yardage. It's a fluff stat, because winning isn't about yards, it's about points. Unless you're talking a ridiculous number of yards, like say Brees approaching 5500 in 2011, in which case it's almost a foregone conclusion that he's also responsible for a lot of TDs, since it's next to impossible to throw for that many yards without getting into the end zone. But there's, to me, no real good argument for positives around a dink-and-dunk QB.

(don't get me started on Rich Gannon...)

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Old 07-09-2013, 09:11 PM   #6
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This is one of those arguments that falls into the "quarterbacking rating is a useless stat" category, which is something I've been saying for about as long as I can remember. Because of the emphasis placed on comp percentage and yardage, you can have stat inflation when a QB completes a high percentage of short passes. It's to me the same sort of problem you get when you rank total offense and defense based on yardage. It's a fluff stat, because winning isn't about yards, it's about points. Unless you're talking a ridiculous number of yards, like say Brees approaching 5500 in 2011, in which case it's almost a foregone conclusion that he's also responsible for a lot of TDs, since it's next to impossible to throw for that many yards without getting into the end zone. But there's, to me, no real good argument for positives around a dink-and-dunk QB.

(don't get me started on Rich Gannon...)
Well great, that's just ****ING GREAT!!!

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Old 07-09-2013, 09:25 PM   #7
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Well great, that's just ****ING GREAT!!!

You've now invited Denise to this thread.
Well, Grbac sucked worse.

And Gannon's MVP season was a statistical aberration for him. He definitely earned it that year.

Of course, that said, I'd probably count us lucky if we get Gannon production out of Alex Smith, let's say something along the lines of 3800 yards, 25 TD, 10 INT.
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:00 PM   #8
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People spent the last four years comparing Cassel to rookie QBs to make him look good, too.
Yes, the intellectually dishonest assholes sure did.

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Some of these young guys are starting out with fantastic support around them.

Alex never got that in his developing years. It wasn't till 2011 that he could begin to really function well... and in that time, he has been one of the top QBs in efficiency.

... and let's be honest... it has become such a backyard balling game that these young guys get a huge advantage over most with their athleticism. We'll see how they do now that defenses have a decent amount of film to study.
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:02 PM   #9
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Well, Grbac sucked worse.

And Gannon's MVP season was a statistical aberration for him. He definitely earned it that year.

Of course, that said, I'd probably count us lucky if we get Gannon production out of Alex Smith, let's say something along the lines of 3800 yards, 25 TD, 10 INT.
I can't make any judgements until tc and pre season.
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:05 PM   #10
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Old 07-09-2013, 10:07 PM   #11
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Throwing for 300 yards results in wins these days.

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And I'll take Super Bowl trophies over wins.

Looks like 300 yard passers win this round.
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Understand this:

In my bet with Payton's Gentle Prostate, I am counting on Smith to do NOTHING but take care of the football, allowing Charles and Bowe to work their mojo. I expect Alice to once in a very blue moon pull something out of his ass besides Matt Cassel's blind luck, but I'm not holding my breath.
I also fully expect our defense to take a major step forward this year under new direction, and to begin punishing teams.

That...is enough to win this weak-assed division.
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In my bet with Payton's Gentle Prostate, I am counting on Smith to do NOTHING but take care of the football, allowing Charles and Bowe to work their mojo. I expect Alice to once in a very blue moon pull something out of his ass besides Matt Cassel's blind luck, but I'm not holding my breath.
I also fully expect our defense to take a major step forward this year under new direction, and to begin punishing teams.

That...is enough to win this weak-assed division.
You may as well change your name now, and save yourself the trouble later.
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