Chiefs Has they game surpased Gun?

harpes · 08-24-2008, 12:46 PM

Always been a huge fan of Gun. I've loved his passion and desire to win but has the game changed in a way that it has outgrown Gun? The last couple of years it has looked like we are just not prepared. I know there is a lot of youth but almost of the youth but I didnt see Miami with much more experiance that KC and they were lightyears ahead of us.

Hydrae · 08-24-2008, 12:49 PM

I have always been a big fan of Gun's as well but I think that is myopia about the late 90's more than anything else. I have not been able to see any of the games this preseason but if tackling is STILL an issue I have to start looking at Gun. There is no way that tackling should ever be an issue at this level but it seems to be consistent with Gun's defenses.

Count me as being off Gun's bandwagon.

**Skip Towne** · 08-24-2008, 12:53 PM

Gun was good when he had Marty around to hold his hand. Since then, not so much.

Nightfyre · 08-24-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

Gun was good when he had Marty around to hold his hand. Since then, not so much.

I think this could be very accurate, sadly. I too have fallen off.

MOhillbilly · 08-24-2008, 01:20 PM

hes carls yes man. always has been. move on.

Friendo · 08-24-2008, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

Gun was good when he had Marty around to hold his hand. Since then, not so much.

this

**Baby Lee** · 08-24-2008, 12:52 PM

It seemed last year, if we had EVERY ONE of his top guys in there, we did well. But lose one, Edwards most glaringly, and it all fell apart.

Pasta Little Brioni · 08-24-2008, 01:21 PM

It is still kind of sad that they hired him back after getting shit canned as coach here. Not surprising, but sad.

B_Ambuehl · 08-24-2008, 01:26 PM

I say he's earned his keep with the way his defense has played in a few road games the past couple of years. He's basically shut down Payton Manning twice with an over-matched defense. Not too many coordinators can say that.

dj56dt58 · 08-24-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

I say he's earned his keep with the way his defense has played in a few road games the past couple of years. He's basically shut down Payton Manning twice with an over-matched defense. Not too many coordinators can say that.

but..but..Gun sucks. he cant coach the defensze no more!!11

In case you forgot..we don't exactly have all world talent on D..especially with Allen gone. If anything, It's Gun thats made this defense as good as it is

el borracho · 08-24-2008, 01:24 PM

Nothing wrong with his ability to scheme but I doubt today's player responds very well to the yelling. It would also help if his GM could supply him with a decent line but I know all the haters will say that is just making excuses.

MOhillbilly · 08-24-2008, 01:28 PM

gun has never been anything better than a position coach. the only reason gun has kept his job is because he sucks carls dick just the way carl tells gun to suck it.

**DaneMcCloud** · 08-24-2008, 02:34 PM

10 years ago.

He hasn't coached what I'd personally consider a great defense since 1997.

That a long ride on that rep.

TrickyNicky · 08-24-2008, 02:38 PM

Its pretty easy to get a rep as a great blitz coach when you had DT on the edge and great interior D-linemen, eh?

mikey23545 · 08-24-2008, 02:39 PM

Has they game surpased Gun?

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Originally Posted by harpes

Always been a huge fan of Gun. I've loved his passion and desire to win but has the game changed in a way that it has outgrown Gun? The last couple of years it has looked like we are just not prepared. I know there is a lot of youth but almost of the youth but I didnt see Miami with much more experiance that KC and they were lightyears ahead of us.

Hass spellink surpazzed harpes?

08-24-2008, 12:46 PM	Topic Starter
harpes Starter Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Baxter Springs Ks Casino cash: $10004900	Has they game surpased Gun? Always been a huge fan of Gun. I've loved his passion and desire to win but has the game changed in a way that it has outgrown Gun? The last couple of years it has looked like we are just not prepared. I know there is a lot of youth but almost of the youth but I didnt see Miami with much more experiance that KC and they were lightyears ahead of us.
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08-24-2008, 12:49 PM	#2
Hydrae Sandbox: Leander Lasercats Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Austin, Tx Casino cash: $2347000	I have always been a big fan of Gun's as well but I think that is myopia about the late 90's more than anything else. I have not been able to see any of the games this preseason but if tackling is STILL an issue I have to start looking at Gun. There is no way that tackling should ever be an issue at this level but it seems to be consistent with Gun's defenses. Count me as being off Gun's bandwagon.
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08-24-2008, 12:53 PM	#3
Skip Towne Supporter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: T-Town Casino cash: $10004900	Gun was good when he had Marty around to hold his hand. Since then, not so much.
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08-24-2008, 01:20 PM	#5
MOhillbilly Mama Tried Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9949903	hes carls yes man. always has been. move on.
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08-24-2008, 12:52 PM	#7
Baby Lee Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $6838598	It seemed last year, if we had EVERY ONE of his top guys in there, we did well. But lose one, Edwards most glaringly, and it all fell apart. __________________ We need the kind of courage that can withstand the subtle corruption of the cynics - E.W.
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08-24-2008, 01:21 PM	#8
Pasta Little Brioni Consuming CP souls Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: U.S.A. Casino cash: $3998880	It is still kind of sad that they hired him back after getting shit canned as coach here. Not surprising, but sad.
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08-24-2008, 01:26 PM	#9
B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9805405	I say he's earned his keep with the way his defense has played in a few road games the past couple of years. He's basically shut down Payton Manning twice with an over-matched defense. Not too many coordinators can say that. __________________ Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott agreed with" LOL
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08-24-2008, 01:24 PM	#11
el borracho In Pat We Trust Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Albuquerque, NM Casino cash: $6399148	Nothing wrong with his ability to scheme but I doubt today's player responds very well to the yelling. It would also help if his GM could supply him with a decent line but I know all the haters will say that is just making excuses.
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08-24-2008, 01:28 PM	#12
MOhillbilly Mama Tried Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9949903	gun has never been anything better than a position coach. the only reason gun has kept his job is because he sucks carls dick just the way carl tells gun to suck it.
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08-24-2008, 02:34 PM	#13
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	10 years ago. He hasn't coached what I'd personally consider a great defense since 1997. That a long ride on that rep.
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08-24-2008, 02:38 PM	#14
TrickyNicky My Black Friend, Alan Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Manhattan Casino cash: $10007047	Its pretty easy to get a rep as a great blitz coach when you had DT on the edge and great interior D-linemen, eh?
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