Food and Drink Vegging it for 40 days?

**the Talking Can** · 02-13-2013, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

It depends. Lean meat doesn't lead to obesity. Processed meats, fatty meats, greasy bacon, etc. - yes.

not really...

processed food is bad for you, in a myriad of ways...but fat doesn't make you fat...processed carbs and sugar make you fat

obesity has sky rocketed in exact relationship to the anti-fat craze...everything is low fat and yet our society is fatter and sicker than ever

it's bunk nutritional science that is literally killing us

animal fat is important and healthy...not so much when comes in processed, rancid forms...

anyways, I don't really want to hash out this terrible received wisdom...but a lot of work has been done to de-bunk the myths about fat and cholesterol

**Buck** · 02-13-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy

?

Foods with incredible amounts of fat = incredibly calorically dense = greater probability exceeding daily caloric needs = fat gain

See...

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

not really...

processed food is bad for you, in a myriad of ways...but fat doesn't make you fat...processed carbs and sugar make you fat

obesity has sky rocketed in exact relationship to the anti-fat craze...everything is low fat and yet our society is fatter and sicker than ever

it's bunk nutritional science that is literally killing us

animal fat is important and healthy...not so much when comes in processed, rancid forms...

anyways, I don't really want to hash out this terrible received wisdom...but a lot of work has been done to de-bunk the myths about fat and cholesterol

When you cut out sugar, you maintain a low insulin level, which in turn leads to lower hunger levels. It's not magic. It's science.

**loochy** · 02-13-2013, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck

See...

When you cut out sugar, you maintain a low insulin level, which in turn leads to lower hunger levels. It's not magic. It's science.

right, but the sugar isn't makign you fat, it's the excess food you will consume

for what it's worth, i like all foods and i think diets where you completely cut something out are ridiculous (IE cutting out all carbohydrates, cutting out all meat, etc - i don't mean getting rid of sugar becuase of course that is a good thing)

Mr. Laz · 02-13-2013, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy

right, but the sugar isn't makign you fat, it's the excess food you will consume

why .. why must this stupid shit be said every time?

Sugar doesn't actually make you fat it just leads to you being fat

**** off

**loochy** · 02-13-2013, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

why .. why must this stupid shit be said every time?

Sugar doesn't actually make you fat it just leads to you being fat

**** off

quiet fatty, the adults are talking

i acknowledge what buck said and it's correct.

and yeah, sugar is bad

but don't think you can eat lard and not get fat

Mr. Laz · 02-13-2013, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy

quiet fatty, the adults are talking

jumping off a cliff doesn't kill you, it's just the suddenly stop at the bottom

derp,derp,derp ....

**loochy** · 02-13-2013, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

jumping off a cliff doesn't kill you, it's just the suddenly stop at the bottom

derp,derp,derp ....

if you have a cushion or parachute mechanism then you dont die

just like if you dont keep chowing down you dont get fat

**Buck** · 02-13-2013, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by loochy

right, but the sugar isn't makign you fat, it's the excess food you will consume

And fat is making you fat? Do you see how what you're arguing is flawed?

**loochy** · 02-13-2013, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck

And fat is making you fat? Do you see how what you're arguing is flawed?

it can make you fat

just like sugar

its not just one or the other

its a combo.

I'M NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOU - i love meat and it gets a really bad reputatioon

but excess consumption of grease IS NOT A GOOD THING

**loochy** · 02-13-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

not really...

processed food is bad for you, in a myriad of ways...but fat doesn't make you fat...processed carbs and sugar make you fat

obesity has sky rocketed in exact relationship to the anti-fat craze...everything is low fat and yet our society is fatter and sicker than ever

it's bunk nutritional science that is literally killing us

animal fat is important and healthy...not so much when comes in processed, rancid forms...

anyways, I don't really want to hash out this terrible received wisdom...but a lot of work has been done to de-bunk the myths about fat and cholesterol

Excess anything makes you fat

sugars that spike insulin will tend to make you store more as fat, but they dont automatically cause fat, just as eating fat doesn't automatically cause fat

**DaKCMan AP** · 02-13-2013, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

not really...

processed food is bad for you, in a myriad of ways...but fat doesn't make you fat...processed carbs and sugar make you fat

obesity has sky rocketed in exact relationship to the anti-fat craze...everything is low fat and yet our society is fatter and sicker than ever

it's bunk nutritional science that is literally killing us

animal fat is important and healthy...not so much when comes in processed, rancid forms...

anyways, I don't really want to hash out this terrible received wisdom...but a lot of work has been done to de-bunk the myths about fat and cholesterol

True. I guess the point is many of these individuals don't just eat meat - they eat processed meat and top it with processed cheese and put it on processed, high sugar bread with tons of mayo and sugary ketchup, eat it with greasy sodium-overdosed french fries and wash it all down with a tub of soda.

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Originally Posted by Buck

I eat all the stuff you say makes you fat every single day and I've lost 135+ lbs.

Maybe fat isn't the best description - and as above it matters how and what you eat it with. Also, cutting excess weight can be done by consuming less calories than what you burn - no matter what you are eating.

**loochy** · 02-13-2013, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

True. I guess the point is many of these individuals don't just eat meat - they eat processed meat and top it with processed cheese and put it on processed, high sugar bread with tons of mayo and sugary ketchup, eat it with greasy sodium-overdosed french fries and wash it all down with a tub of soda.

Maybe fat isn't the best description - and as above it matters how and what you eat it with. Also, cutting excess weight can be done by consuming less calories than what you burn - no matter what you are eating.

thank you for being reasonable

**the Talking Can** · 02-13-2013, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

True. I guess the point is many of these individuals don't just eat meat - they eat processed meat and top it with processed cheese and put it on processed, high sugar bread with tons of mayo and sugary ketchup, eat it with greasy sodium-overdosed french fries and wash it all down with a tub of soda.

Maybe fat isn't the best description - and as above it matters how and what you eat it with. Also, cutting excess weight can be done by consuming less calories than what you burn - no matter what you are eating.

exactly...quality meat is actually healthy for you (really healthy)...shitty meat wrapped in shitty oils and shitty breading with shitty fries etc is a disaster

but I really hate talking about food because everyone thinks the way they eat is right (me included)...and there is so much bunk received wisdom about fat and meat (imo, obviously)...i'm going to zip it and go slander someone for not being in suffering love with geno