Royals 2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread - Page 428

duncan_idaho · 10:01 AM

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

Chiefspants · 07-01-2013, 02:29 PM

I don't want to DFA Gutierrez.

He's been pitching too good-mediocre for the Tigers to pick him up for the summer.

CaliforniaChief · 07-01-2013, 02:33 PM

I'm hearing a lot about the Padres needing pitching. I wonder if they'd be interested in Chen or Hochevar. Hochevar has shown stuff lately, and can really help them.

Crazy off the wall shit here, but do you think Kyle Blanks can be had?

Chiefspants · 07-01-2013, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

I'm hearing a lot about the Padres needing pitching. I wonder if they'd be interested in Chen or Hochevar. Hochevar has shown stuff lately, and can really help them.

Crazy off the wall shit here, but do you think Kyle Blanks can be had?

For Luke?

That would be a Billy Beane type steal if Moore pulled it off. I'm guessing they'd want Santana or a package of our prospects in exchange.

But, I will say that there have been confirmed reports that we HAVE been scouting their ballclub.

CaliforniaChief · 07-01-2013, 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

But, I will say that there have been confirmed reports that we HAVE been scouting their ballclub.

My biggest concern with Blanks is injury history. But the ball just explodes off his bat.

duncan_idaho · 07-01-2013, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

I'm hearing a lot about the Padres needing pitching. I wonder if they'd be interested in Chen or Hochevar. Hochevar has shown stuff lately, and can really help them.

Crazy off the wall shit here, but do you think Kyle Blanks can be had?

Not for either of those guys, unless they're a throw-in piece.

Their OF is not great, and Blanks is easily one of their 2-3 best guys there, with no real alternatives.

One of those guys plus a few prospects might get it done, but if they're in contention at all, I can't see them moving Blanks.

CaliforniaChief · 07-01-2013, 02:43 PM

Yeah, I just got a tweet-back from someone familiar with the Padres, telling me that they probably wouldn't part with him because of injuries to Quentin/Alonso.

Demonpenz · 07-01-2013, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin

Rany (or maybe it was Petro) likened him to Avilles and saw him more as a super-utility type guy.

Rany can eat a dick as of late.

BlackHelicopters · 07-01-2013, 02:50 PM

Moore is never the smartest guy in the room. No way we get Blanks.

Prison Bitch · 07-01-2013, 03:10 PM

Padres outfielder/first baseman Kyle Blanks is batting .301 (28 for 93) with a .527 slugging percentage, five home runs, six doubles and 18 RBI in 24 games in June.

So basically, he's doing what Hosmer has this month. And we want to get him for....Luke Hochevar? Would you trade Hosmer right now for Luke?

CaliforniaChief · 07-01-2013, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Padres outfielder/first baseman Kyle Blanks is batting .301 (28 for 93) with a .527 slugging percentage, five home runs, six doubles and 18 RBI in 24 games in June.

So basically, he's doing what Hosmer has this month. And we want to get him for....Luke Hochevar? Would you trade Hosmer right now for Luke?

Maybe as part of a package, especially if the Royals ate most of his salary. Pitching is king, and as we saw on the other side of it, you usually get to rape if you're dealing the pitcher. But yeah, it's far-fetched.

I think Blanks is a nice gem.

SPATCH · 07-01-2013, 05:10 PM

We have to go out and find an RF with some pop.

Lough is a 4th OF (and a pretty good one considering he has the speed to play CF when needed).

Sure-Oz · 07-01-2013, 05:28 PM

I'd love Blanks but they wont give him up for a decent SP.

Royals need another SP if they want to continue

Nightfyre · 07-01-2013, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I got my numbers from ESPN. http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/stats/...957/wade-davis

I'm not sure how a 5.55 ERA, 1.81WHIP, and 328 batting average against is better than replacement level. I'm also pretty sure those numbers justify the "bad rap" he gets.

The guy literally just has bad games. He gives us a three runs or less performance in two out of three. It's not quite as good as my initial impression, I was thinking 3/4 - but still. He probably does belong in the pen - he isn't really efficient enough to be a starter and he has to take a lot off his fastball.

DATE--IP--ER
05APR--5.0--4
10APR--5.0--0
17APR--7.0--0
24APR--3.2--3
29APR--4.2--8
05MAY--6.0--1
10MAY--5.0--7
15MAY--5.1--4
21MAY--5.0--3
26MAY--6.1--3
31MAY--5.0--6
06JUN--5.0--0 -(Note:3 unearned runs given up)
11JUN--6.2--2
16JUN--6.0--2
22JUN--7.0--2
29JUN--1.0--6

**PHOG** · 07-01-2013, 08:05 PM

Davis needs to go to the bullpen where he belongs

**PHOG** · 07-01-2013, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

The guy literally just has bad games. He gives us a three runs or less performance in two out of three. It's not quite as good as my initial impression, I was thinking 3/4 - but still. He probably does belong in the pen - he isn't really efficient enough to be a starter and he has to take a lot off his fastball.

DATE--IP--ER
05APR--5.0--4
10APR--5.0--0
17APR--7.0--0
24APR--3.2--3
29APR--4.2--8
05MAY--6.0--1
10MAY--5.0--7
15MAY--5.1--4
21MAY--5.0--3
26MAY--6.1--3
31MAY--5.0--6
06JUN--5.0--0 -(Note:3 unearned runs given up)
11JUN--6.2--2
16JUN--6.0--2
22JUN--7.0--2
29JUN--1.0--6

By that, it looks like he's doing pretty good, after some shellings earlier

12-11-2012, 09:59 AM
duncan_idaho M-I-Z-Z-O-U Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Kansas City Casino cash: $1770308	2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise. Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk. At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor. Burning questions updates below. Burning Questions for 2013: 1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation? Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory. 2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door? Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster. 3) Does Hosmer bounce back? Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far. 4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012? Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go. 5) Who regresses? Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years. 6) Who plays 2B? Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it. 7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level? Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha 8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014? Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014. 9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse? Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before. 10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers? Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it? Last edited by duncan_idaho; 07-15-2013 at 10:01 AM..
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