2013 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread

[duncan_idaho]

Proposed 2013 Slogan: Tigers: They're what's for dinner
Actual 2013 Slogan: Come to Play
A better, more accurate, or alternative slogan: All in, no panic, we promise.

Dayton Moore has pushed all his chips in and is riding on King/Jack suited, hoping it comes together, he gets some good luck, and he hits the nuts by the river card. There's potential, oh yes, there's potential. There's also risk.

At the midway point, Dayton is left counting on the river card. The flop and turn didn't help him, and he's looking at the Tigers holding a pair of Queens and the Indians holding a pair of 9s. His 2013 plan hasn't failed - yet - but the odds are not in his favor.

Burning questions updates below.

Burning Questions for 2013:

1) Will the improve rotation be improved enough? Does James Shields pitch like a fringe No. 1 away from Tampa Bay? Does Ervin Santana pitch to his highest upside in his walk year? Can Jeremy Guthrie build on his strong performance as a Royal in 2012? Can Wade Davis bring his new mentality- and velocity - back to the rotation?

Midseason check-in: Yes, the rotation is certainly improved enough. Shields has pitched like a fringe No. 1 and Santana is having his best season. Guthrie has horrible peripherals but has continued to perform well at his home park and eat innings on the road. Davis brought neither his kick-ass mentality or improved velocity back to the rotation and is in Luke Hochevar/Hiram Davies territory.

2) When will Luke Hochevar be shown the door?
Midseason check-in: It appears, never, at this point. Hochevar has been solid in non-leverage situations, though pretty much every time he has been used with men on base in an inning, it has been a disaster.

3) Does Hosmer bounce back?
Midseason check-in: It took some time, but Hosmer's performance from June 1 on is probably the most encouraging thing about the 2013 season so far.
4) Can Moustakas hit for a whole season like he did in the first half of 2012?
Midseason check-in: Nope. Moustakas was god-awful, then great for about 3 weeks, then god-awful again. He has been better since he started working with Brett and Grafol but still has a long way to go.
5) Who regresses?
Midseason check-in: Welp, Alicides Escobar is not a surprising name here (though Yost's stubborn insistence on hitting him second is ridiculous). Billy Butler is a surprise. He isn't having a terrible year - still contributing a lot to the offense - but he's not hitting for the average or power he has displayed over the past several years.
6) Who plays 2B?
Midseason check-in: A whole bunch of people, and not that great. Gio is at least getting a shot, though he once again is not doing much with it.
7) Can Jeff Francoeur be at least replacement level, rather than epic horrible level?
Midseason check-in: Hahahahahahahahahahaha
8) Will Dayton Moore survive to see 2014?
Midseason check-in: Outlook uncertain. Probably still around, unless the team completely tanks in the second half and he does something foolish. My guess - he sacrifices Ned Yost this offseason and gets one more shot with a new manager in 2014.
9) Will Danny Duffy come back healthy? And if he does, is he the same, better or worse?
Midseason check-in: Yes. Velocity looks the same, and it looks likely he is the same guy as before.
10) And the big one: Has KC added enough to run down the big-money Detroit Tigers?
Midseason check-in: Doesn't look like it, does it?

[ChiefsCountry]

Draft is tommorrow who are they targeting? I would assume it will be either Ryne Stanek from Arkansas or Alex Gonzalez from Oral Roberts.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by unnecessary drama

they probably wouldn't do it for Shields, either

BUT

The Royals should in a heartbeat. This season is toast. **** Shields. See ya later, brah. Flipping Myers and Odrizzi for Profar is fair enough.

That is an intriguing idea. Would I do that deal in December? I'd lean no but I'd give it thought. Where we are now I'd definitely package Shields for him.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by unnecessary drama

they probably wouldn't do it for Shields, either

BUT

The Royals should in a heartbeat. This season is toast. **** Shields. See ya later, brah. Flipping Myers and Odrizzi for Profar is fair enough.

I said this earlier in the thread... but I'd gladly send the Rangers Shields + Santana + another piece for Profar.

I doubt Dayton Moore would, though. And I doubt even more the Rangers would.

[OmahaChief]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Draft is tommorrow who are they targeting? I would assume it will be either Ryne Stanek from Arkansas or Alex Gonzalez from Oral Roberts.

If they take Stanek, just shut this franchise down and leave town. That guy is destined for the bulpen. If we take another middle relief guy at number one I might just be done for good.

[Archie F. Swin]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I said this earlier in the thread... but I'd gladly send the Rangers Shields + Santana + another piece for Profar.

I doubt Dayton Moore would, though. And I doubt even more the Rangers would.

Does this mean you have faith that an active Duffy and Paulino, plus fresh meat from the farm would fill the Royals pitching gaps?

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by OmahaChief

If they take Stanek, just shut this franchise down and leave town. That guy is destined for the bulpen. If we take another middle relief guy at number one I might just be done for good.

They haven't been scouting Stanek much this year, according to recent reports. So there's that, at least.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Archie F. Swin

Does this mean you have faith that an active Duffy and Paulino, plus fresh meat from the farm would fill the Royals pitching gaps?

I think what it really means is that it's time we realize this year is a failure (I said at the beginning of May that the upcoming month could make or break the team, right?) unless they go on a crazy winning streak starting now. And that if you have an opportunity to go out and get a guy like Profar who can be a superstar with the bat AND the glove, you do it.

Not that I see it happening. Moore would have a hard time justifying keeping his job if his second attempt at a "go for it" year ended in epic failure, too. And trading Shields now would definitely signal that.

Texas would also likely not do the deal. If they move Profar, I think it's going to be for something involving Mike Stanton or David Price.

[Prison Bitch]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

(I said at the beginning of May that the upcoming month could make or break the team, right?)

No, you said Moose was fine, had turned the corner, and had no business being sent down. That's what you said.

[duncan_idaho]

Favorite draft targets:

Assuming that Appel, Gray, Bryant, Meadows, Stewart and Frazier are all gone by the time the Royals pick...

I like Braden Shipley out of Nevada or Trey Ball, the Texas OF/P.

Both guys have premium arms with low mileage on them, high upside, and very good changeups.

Ball has only been throwing a curveball since his junior year of HS but reportedly has developed it to an impressive level for a guy who has only been throwing it 1.5 years.

Least favorite targets:

Ryne Stanek - Velocity has dipped, his slider has lost some bite, and he has shown little progression with his changeup. Needs to be "fixed" a bit by MiLB development team. Not confident this Royals' development team can get that done.

Phil Bickford - He's a big HS arm who throws mid-90s now with promise of more. But he's extremely raw and has no secondary stuff to speak of at this point. Ball has similar upside and ability (size and velocity are nearly the same) and is much more polished.

[DeepSouth]

I don't usually do hypothetical’s but I’ve got one;

Dyson comes back. The Royals decide Francoeur is the odd man out. However, that leaves you with three Lefty Outfielders. So, you find a someone that will give you a right handed outfielder (assume it’s someone you’d be happy with) for Francoeur and one of your lefties. You ain’t giving them Gordon so you have to pick Dyson or Lough.

Who would you give up? Dyson or Lough?

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by DeepSouth

The Royals decide Francoeur is the odd man out.

Stopped reading at that point. *sigh*

[DeepSouth]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Stopped reading at that point. *sigh*

You have every reason to be doubtful but I think he'll be off the team by the all-star break. His contract is up after this year. He brings no value to the team at this point. He's a wasted roster spot. If they can't get anything for him, I think they let him go.

[gblowfish]

Looking at K's and BB's so far this year.

Just in generally watching, you would think that Frenchy leads the team in Ks. Actually Alex does, he has 51. But he as many more plate appearances.

Cain has been K'ing a lot. He also has 41. Hos has 36, Moose has 26.

Billay has even walks and K's at 34 ea. That's not terrible for your alleged clean up guy, we need more extra base sock from Billay.

On walks, nobody has 20 or more except Billay.

Frenchy has walked only 5 times this year. 41Ks and 5 BBs. Terrible.

[Prison Bitch]

So Cain has 1 HR and 41k this year.


Escobar is a total pumpkin with identical stats to Berroa and Neifi.


And people STILL think we won the Greinke deal? LMFAO

[Deberg_1990]

I saw a stat on the Star that said the Royals are 17-5 when they score 4 or more runs. Just another telling stat about how awful the offense has been. All they need is just 1 or 2 guys to get hot or find a power stroke and they can't even manage that. Unreal how we have so many lightweight hitters.
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