Chiefs Chiefs sign Dunta Robinson - Page 36

ShowtimeSBMVP · 03-08-2013, 10:08 PM

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter

And we're off: Former Falcons cornerback Dunta Robinson reached agreement Friday night on a three-year deal with the Kansas City Chiefs.

Direckshun · 03-09-2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

but you need to change "one year patch"

to 3 year deal, potentially in the range of 4 to 6 million

which is absolutely awful

Routt signed a three-year deal too.

mcaj22 · 03-09-2013, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

Rod Woodson, John Lynch, Merton Hanks, Ronnie Lott, it happens quite a bit actually.

What you seem to not quite understand, is that even in the 5th and 6th years, these guys are still learning and adjusting.

take a guy like Charles Woodson as an example, do you think he just stopped learning when he came to the pros? The reason he's been as good as gold since day 1 until now, is because he's ever changing, he lost a step, but he learned how to make up for it. Same goes for the Champ Baileys of the world.

How about Ed Reed? He was god awful in coverage but one hell of a playmaker, he's pretty old now don't you think? Still learning, still refining his play. He got better with age, as do most free safety types.

you just compared Dunta Robinson to some of the best CBs and Safeties in NFL history you do realize that

Oh and all those guys could cover from day 1 in the league until they retired, so awful examples. I said I wanted guys who couldnt cover that got good at it in their thirties and did not regress, and you gave no examples of that.

Hammock Parties · 03-09-2013, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

Rod Woodson, John Lynch, Merton Hanks, Ronnie Lott, it happens quite a bit actually.

Rod Woodson made the Pro Bowl in his third year you reerun.

Ronnie Lott made the Pro Bowl his first four years in the league.

You know less about football than anyone on this forum.

**RealSNR** · 03-09-2013, 02:11 PM

McCluster has heart?

Oof. That's fat.

Hammock Parties · 03-09-2013, 02:15 PM

Exoter175 · 03-09-2013, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

They're both shitty. They don't produce first downs. They don't produce touchdowns. They don't make big plays. Dexter drops a lot of balls and turns the ball over, too.

The fact that Dexter is less shitty doesn't mean much.

But you idiots argued that Dexter was a bust due to where he was picked, but Baldwin was an even bigger bust ,yet you guys don't hate on him nearly as bad?

With Baldwin it is always "Maybe if we got someone to coach him up a little next year". He's a bust, and because he's a bust, we've had to utilize a running back out of the backfield and the slot to make up for his lack of production, same went for Breaston too.

You misconstrue "production" and "playmaker" for "this guys puts up 500 yards a game and scores every drive".

Come back down to reality. It is because of guys like Dexter, that we ever converted 1st downs in the first place.

Think about this for a minute, opposing defenses know that they can leave Baldwin wide open, he'll never catch anything, even a cold. Bowe will just get double teamed. That leaves us with Moeaki and McCluster. McCluster if faster and shiftier, and we can start him from more positions than Moeaki, whereas Moeaki is a much better blocker and 2nd level blocker.

So we used the **** out of McCluster. He didn't have great YPC, but we weren't looking for that in our offense.

We had Matt Cassel throwing to guys who were triple covered, you won't get YAC out of this offense, and considering 93.2% of every completion thrown was within 5 yards of the line of scrimmage, you aren't giving him a chance to run routes. So of course his YPC sucks.

But, he did move the ball forward as a runner and receiver, he is the most versatile player in our offense, and he stepped up last year when everyone laid down.

So yeah, Dexter rocks, and has since he came here, and Andy Reid was high on him, so I'm going to support Dex and hope he has another good year for us in 2013.

Chiefshrink · 03-09-2013, 02:15 PM

What I find interesting is not so much the Robinson signing but how much of a welcomed relief and pleasant surprise this new regime has brought to most CPers and most Chief fans in general with all the immediate movement since taking charge unlike the Steadman,Peterson,***** 40yrs in the desert' routine.

Just taking immediate ongoing action is so foreign to this team and our fan base and IS a pleasant and much needed surprise for all.

**Easy 6** · 03-09-2013, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

We're going to have this argument again?

Remember in the last dexter mccluster thread where you guys argued that he sucked and doesn't deserve a roster spot, then I pointed out that he's a running back who can play wide receiver and produce from any position on the field?

Heart isn't everything but how many times have you seen that little shit dive below a crowd of tacklers and roll for an extra 4-5 yards? Seems to happen 3-4 times a game.

You guys also argued that he wasn't productive, but he held an improved, and high YPC Rushing, as well as a decent YPC receiving for a hybrid player/Running back.

Please, start a new Dexter McCluster thread so I can own the absolute **** out of you on his "talents" again.

This thread is for the Dunta/Lewis argument (well, now it is)

Rest assured that this and other posts like it will be dredged up in the near future.

I've lost count of how many times his stubby arms couldnt haul in a throw right in front of him, or how easily and often he got muscled out of a route, or how often he did manage to catch one, only to have someone smash it right out of his grasp... he will NEVER be a good slot guy, or any other kind of wide receiver for that matter.

If you want to say Reid might be able to make him look respectable as a back catching swing passes and quick hitters in open space, where he can catch the ball without much pressure and have time to prepare for a big hit, giving him a few draws etc, then fine, Andy just might be able to pull that off.

Direckshun · 03-09-2013, 02:16 PM

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Hammock Parties · 03-09-2013, 02:17 PM

28 yards per game is a load of shit, man.

You know how many turnovers he was responsible for last year?

NINE.

Big Chief Homer · 03-09-2013, 02:17 PM

@JoelThorman im baffled by goofballs such as yourself who write and report as if you know what the hell your talking about. Your a joke

Javiers not happy about Dunta.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-09-2013, 02:17 PM

There isn't any RB or WR in the league who couldn't have done what McCluster did last year.

Running a four yard dig against Cover 3 deep zone b/c the defense is up by 31 doesn't mean your catches are meaningful or difficult.

The guy is straight ass.

Big Chief Homer · 03-09-2013, 02:17 PM

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We wrote Chiefs are asking for trouble if they go into next season with Arenas as starting CB. Guessing that's where that comes from

Exoter175 · 03-09-2013, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

you just compared Dunta Robinson to some of the best CBs and Safeties in NFL history you do realize that

Oh and all those guys could cover from day 1 in the league until they retired, so awful examples. I said I wanted guys who couldnt cover that got good at it in their thirties and did not regress, and you gave no examples of that.

I gave you examples of guys who became better at coverage as they got older. Its the same thing. Turning Good into Great is the same as turning shit into mediocrity.

Also, we don't have metrics to compare with all of them, so you can't arbitrarily say "they were good when they came into the league", when in reality most of them weren't.

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Originally Posted by Go to Hell

Rod Woodson made the Pro Bowl in his third year you reerun.

Ronnie Lott made the Pro Bowl his first four years in the league.

You know less about football than anyone on this forum.

Woodson and Lott didn't make the pro bowl because of their coverage, and you probably had to google Merton Hanks, and you say I have less knowledge than anyone on this forum?

Oh buddy, how little you truly know to make a statement like that. I probably know more about the game and history of football then the next 35 posters who aren't me.

But go ahead, tell me more about how Ronnie Lott and Rod Woodson didn't get better in coverage as they got older and learned more about the game.

Oh wait, you cannot challenge that point I made, can you? Because the truth is they did, and I am right. Yet you challenge my knowledge.

Hammock Parties · 03-09-2013, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

I probably know more about the game and history of football then the next 35 posters who aren't me.

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