Football The blatant hold on the safety play in SB... - Page 4

BigCatDaddy · 02-04-2013, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Was it really catchable though?

No doubt it was.

memyselfI · 02-04-2013, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

No doubt it was.

Sure he could have made a spectacular catch but he was not going to get both feet in bounds. The contact between both players was such that it could have been called either way which made it a non-call, IMO. Too many variables for it to have been considered a flagrant foul.

BigCatDaddy · 02-04-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 300 Bowler

The non-call when Crabtree was held in the end zone was total bullshit. The announcers tried to justify the non-call by saying both guys were putting their hands on each other. To me it looked like Crabtree was held and was trying to fight off the guy holding him. That would have been the winning touchdown. I like the idea of letting guys play, but that doesn't mean you let the defense get away with murder. (Unless it's Ray Lewis, of course.) :-)

If the zebras are going to make that extremely questionable PI call that kept the Ravens drive alive that led to the winning field goal, they ought to at least be consistent.

Herm said on the radio this morning that once Crabtree ran into and iniated the contact with Williams that there was no way a flag was coming out.

MagicHef · 02-04-2013, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Herm said on the radio this morning that once Crabtree ran into and iniated the contact with Williams that there was no way a flag was coming out.

Did Crabtree really initiate contact? Watching the replay, it looks like he touches the DB at almost the exact same time that the DB grabs him.

KChiefer · 02-04-2013, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Did Crabtree really initiate contact? Watching the replay, it looks like he touches the DB at almost the exact same time that the DB grabs him.

Well, the jam started within 5 yds and I thought all grasping stopped by the time they hit the end zone. However, the DB still had his arms extended around the WR impede his progress while Crabtree was pushing off of the DB's helmet trying to get free.

I want to bitch about it kinda b/c I was pulling for the 49ers, but as has been said, drawing of a fade route with the game on the line is an awful idea. That said, BAL went blitz(yes?) and that's a good way to beat that. Same goes for the play earlier in the game when Kap threw a fade to Moss. BAL sells out, but Moss ran a slant which Kap couldn't hit b/c Reed was in the way. I was wondering if Moss just had a bad read and ran the wrong route.

**Rain Man** · 02-04-2013, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 300 Bowler

The non-call when Crabtree was held in the end zone was total bullshit. The announcers tried to justify the non-call by saying both guys were putting their hands on each other. To me it looked like Crabtree was held and was trying to fight off the guy holding him. That would have been the winning touchdown. I like the idea of letting guys play, but that doesn't mean you let the defense get away with murder. (Unless it's Ray Lewis, of course.) :-)

If the zebras are going to make that extremely questionable PI call that kept the Ravens drive alive that led to the winning field goal, they ought to at least be consistent.

Yeah, the more I watched that play, the 49ers should have gotten the call. That was far beyond normal contact.

I was wondering if the refs no-called it because the all was so overthrown, but if the receiver wasn't being blatantly held it might've been catchable It would've been a tough catch at best since it was overthrown a bit, but he would've had a shot.

**Iowanian** · 02-04-2013, 10:30 AM

You cannot put your hands on an official.

I'll bet he gets a big ass fine. Bigger than the half time show ass.

The perfect ending for this game would have been for Frank Gore to blow over Ray Lewis for the winning TD.

BigCatDaddy · 02-04-2013, 10:35 AM

The refs let a lot go both ways. I think it was the right call not to bog it down with flags.

htismaqe · 02-04-2013, 10:35 AM

Williams is CLEARLY yelling at #49 the entire time. Watch the very end. The ref positioned himself between them and kept himself there.

**The Franchise** · 02-04-2013, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Williams is CLEARLY yelling at #49 the entire time. Watch the very end. The ref positioned himself between them and kept himself there.

Yeah....I'll change my stance on that. Dude should have been ejected for the contact. Players have been ejected for smaller stuff than that.

htismaqe · 02-04-2013, 10:40 AM

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Yeah....I'll change my stance on that. Dude should have been ejected for the contact. Players have been ejected for smaller stuff than that.

Yeah, totally get that.

**Rain Man** · 02-04-2013, 10:41 AM

When the safety play happened (which I didn't think was a good strategy to start with), I was shocked at how blatant the hold was. I see the point that you have to let the play continue, but that's a big loophole. If you want to kill 3 minutes, you can snap the ball to your most elusive running back, just tell every blocker to grab and bear hug the defender and hold them on the ground, and the runner can run all over the field trying to beat the one defender who isn't being held on the ground.

Now that I think about it, that would be a fun play to watch.

**gblowfish** · 02-04-2013, 10:42 AM

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**BigRedChief** · 02-04-2013, 10:59 AM

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**The Bad Guy** · 02-04-2013, 10:42 AM

The helmet to helmet contact on Crabtree on the end was awful.

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