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DJ's left nut · 03-23-2011, 07:48 PM

Seems like this deserves its own thread. The news will start coming fast over the next week or two, IMO. Recruiting is a 365-day event and we can't afford to be rudderless for long.

My vote - Cuonzo Martin.

Discuss.

**Saulbadguy** · 04-04-2011, 06:57 AM

Jesus christ, Mizzou is ****ing worthless.

phisherman · 04-04-2011, 06:57 AM

kinda scratching my head over this one

Al Bundy · 04-04-2011, 07:02 AM

The Miami play by play guy is on 810.

Spott · 04-04-2011, 07:02 AM

http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/spor...avor_by_t.html

Haith did UM a favor by taking Missouri job

By Dave Hyde April 4, 2011 07:03 AM

After seven seasons where he didn't have a winning record in the ACC and made one NCAA Tournament, Frank Haith sure made things easy for the University of Miami and himself.

He got the job at Missouri.

Problem solved.

This looks like a win-win for both. Haith gets a better job and doesn't have to wonder if he'll be fired after next season. And Miami gets a fresh start to decide what kind of basketball program it really wants.

I wondered earlier this year in a column if Haith was going to make it. It spoke of apathy and finances more than job satisfaction that Haith didn't follow Randy Shannon out the door after this basketball season. Miami basketball just doesn't draw much emotion. It would hurt Miami to swallow a second expensive coaching buyout in the same year.

Haith had some support. Mike Krzyzewski at Duke and Roy Williams at North Carolina went out of their way to tell media Haith was doing a good job. Of course, that was after they beat Miami again.

It's not the easiest of jobs at Miami. But it's a lot easier than when Leonard Hamilton took it to three straight NCAA tournaments. Back then, the question wasn't just community apathy. It was the lack of an on-campus arena. Well, the on-campus arena came and, suddenly, the unsolvable problem was apathy. Uh-huh.

When three South Florida kids are in the Final Four, when the state of Florida has more players in the Sweet 16 than any other state, it says there's talent in the recruiting pool. So why wasn't Miami getting any of that?

It always spoke of how smartly Haith worked the media that everyone apologized for him. Reporters liked him with good reason - he was a likeable guy. And called up writers to tell them they were being "objective" and how much he liked a certain article. Some of that was a coach whose program needed publicity assuring he got some. Part of that was a coach knowing human nature is to be nice to people who are nice to you.

It worked, too. Haith won less in his field than Randy Shannon did in his field. This isn't to defend Shannon. It's just to show how far below the radar Haith worked. On the one hand, he complained about the lack of attention. On the other, he was that lack of attention's biggest benefactor.

The question remains just what Miami wants to be with its basketball program. Frank Martin is the obvious, first rumor at the new guy. On one level he fits the bill: A Miami guy, a Cuban-American, a coach who's won at Kansas State. There also are some questions about how he carries himself and runs a program to be answered.

Haith? Nice guy. OK coach. The bottom-line is he did himself and Miami a favor by taking the Missouri job.

Jethopper · 04-04-2011, 07:06 AM

This hire.... wow...

HonestChieffan · 04-04-2011, 07:07 AM

Not sure this has application here but its worth throwing in for interest sake.....

Mr_Tomahawk · 04-04-2011, 07:07 AM

This thread just got pooped on.

**mikeyis4dcats.** · 04-04-2011, 07:08 AM

Lol....slth fail.

**The Bad Guy** · 04-04-2011, 07:39 AM

It would be interesting if Martin went back to Miami. I think he'd be able to recruit the hell out of Florida, but it will never be a hoops school.

siberian khatru · 04-04-2011, 07:42 AM

The MU media's goal this week is to figure out how the search process went after Painter. How many coaches did Alden contact? Did he offer to anyone else? Put the Haith hire in context.

If Alden was turned down by a bunch of folks, that would explain this as a last resort (although it would raise a fresh set of questions about why MU BB has become so radioactive on Alden's watch).

If not, how in the hell could Alden have identified Frank Haith as option 2 (or even option 3, or 4 or ...)? Even factoring in all the rationalizations for Haith at Miami -- it's a black hole for BB with no fan or institutional support, no home court advantage, lots of close losses, etc. -- that would suggest Haith is a good coach who could succeed somewhere else, why is MU that program? Shouldn't Haith be going to a mid-major to rebuild his resume before going back to a BCS program?

At the presser after Anderson left, Alden made it sound like Anderson had brought the program back to a high level, and that MU was now ready to get a coach to take it to the next step. And he immediately followed that by pursuing Painter, which gave every indication Alden believed MU could, should and would attract high-profile, winning coaches.

And then this happens.

So again: Did Alden vastly overrate MU's attractiveness (which again raises other key issues)? Did he panic after losing Painter? Was he really low-balling coaches in Houston (and why would you do that after waving stacks of bills under Anderson's and Painter's noses)?

ArrowheadHawk · 04-04-2011, 08:08 AM

Frank Haith = Turner Gill?

siberian khatru · 04-04-2011, 08:16 AM

Hahaha:

goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Missouri's Kim English will declare for NBA Draft; will not sign with agent. Sources told FOXSports.com decision made prior to Haith hiring.

**Saulbadguy** · 04-04-2011, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArrowheadHawk

Frank Haith = Turner Gill?

Not quite as bad but still pretty ****ing bad.

**Reaper16** · 04-04-2011, 08:24 AM

Mike Alden made the Rebecca Black's "Friday" of coaching hires.

kepp · 04-04-2011, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Hahaha:

goodmanonfox Jeff Goodman
Missouri's Kim English will declare for NBA Draft; will not sign with agent. Sources told FOXSports.com decision made prior to Haith hiring.

"In related news, other members of the Mizzou basketball team seen jumping off Missouri River bridge on highway 63."

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Spott Court Jester Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Orlando Casino cash: $3072400	http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/spor...avor_by_t.html Haith did UM a favor by taking Missouri job By Dave Hyde April 4, 2011 07:03 AM After seven seasons where he didn't have a winning record in the ACC and made one NCAA Tournament, Frank Haith sure made things easy for the University of Miami and himself. He got the job at Missouri. Problem solved. This looks like a win-win for both. Haith gets a better job and doesn't have to wonder if he'll be fired after next season. And Miami gets a fresh start to decide what kind of basketball program it really wants. I wondered earlier this year in a column if Haith was going to make it. It spoke of apathy and finances more than job satisfaction that Haith didn't follow Randy Shannon out the door after this basketball season. Miami basketball just doesn't draw much emotion. It would hurt Miami to swallow a second expensive coaching buyout in the same year. Haith had some support. Mike Krzyzewski at Duke and Roy Williams at North Carolina went out of their way to tell media Haith was doing a good job. Of course, that was after they beat Miami again. It's not the easiest of jobs at Miami. But it's a lot easier than when Leonard Hamilton took it to three straight NCAA tournaments. Back then, the question wasn't just community apathy. It was the lack of an on-campus arena. Well, the on-campus arena came and, suddenly, the unsolvable problem was apathy. Uh-huh. When three South Florida kids are in the Final Four, when the state of Florida has more players in the Sweet 16 than any other state, it says there's talent in the recruiting pool. So why wasn't Miami getting any of that? It always spoke of how smartly Haith worked the media that everyone apologized for him. Reporters liked him with good reason - he was a likeable guy. And called up writers to tell them they were being "objective" and how much he liked a certain article. Some of that was a coach whose program needed publicity assuring he got some. Part of that was a coach knowing human nature is to be nice to people who are nice to you. It worked, too. Haith won less in his field than Randy Shannon did in his field. This isn't to defend Shannon. It's just to show how far below the radar Haith worked. On the one hand, he complained about the lack of attention. On the other, he was that lack of attention's biggest benefactor. The question remains just what Miami wants to be with its basketball program. Frank Martin is the obvious, first rumor at the new guy. On one level he fits the bill: A Miami guy, a Cuban-American, a coach who's won at Kansas State. There also are some questions about how he carries himself and runs a program to be answered. Haith? Nice guy. OK coach. The bottom-line is he did himself and Miami a favor by taking the Missouri job.
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siberian khatru 21st Century Schizoid Fan Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Gates of Delirium Casino cash: $2534950	The MU media's goal this week is to figure out how the search process went after Painter. How many coaches did Alden contact? Did he offer to anyone else? Put the Haith hire in context. If Alden was turned down by a bunch of folks, that would explain this as a last resort (although it would raise a fresh set of questions about why MU BB has become so radioactive on Alden's watch). If not, how in the hell could Alden have identified Frank Haith as option 2 (or even option 3, or 4 or ...)? Even factoring in all the rationalizations for Haith at Miami -- it's a black hole for BB with no fan or institutional support, no home court advantage, lots of close losses, etc. -- that would suggest Haith is a good coach who could succeed somewhere else, why is MU that program? Shouldn't Haith be going to a mid-major to rebuild his resume before going back to a BCS program? At the presser after Anderson left, Alden made it sound like Anderson had brought the program back to a high level, and that MU was now ready to get a coach to take it to the next step. And he immediately followed that by pursuing Painter, which gave every indication Alden believed MU could, should and would attract high-profile, winning coaches. And then this happens. So again: Did Alden vastly overrate MU's attractiveness (which again raises other key issues)? Did he panic after losing Painter? Was he really low-balling coaches in Houston (and why would you do that after waving stacks of bills under Anderson's and Painter's noses)?
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